It's about time someone gave an outlet like this to citizens as well as users of the internet who like to contribute to "OUR" society. Thank-you
I feel we should protect social security for those who've worked and paid into social security. If Mexico wants their workers to have the benefit, their government should have to match what we Americans are paying in. Denise
MEXICO'S GOVERMENT NEEDS TO TAKE CARE OF MEXICO..SOME OF OUR SENIOR CITIZENS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME TODAY AS IT IS.TRYING TO COLLECT WHAT THEY PAID IN FOR MANY YEARS CAN YOU IMAGINE WHEN I REACH THE GOLDEN AGE ?? THERE WANT BE ANY MONEY LEFT.I AM ONE WHO BELIEVES IN TAKING CARE OF ONE ANOTHER BUT I AM NOT ONE WHO BELIEVES IN TAKING CARE OF ONE AND NEGLECT THE OTHER AND THAT IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF WE ALLOW THIS TO GO ON
I Think This is another slap in the face for AMERICANS.. What are they thinking?????Anything to take OUR money for foolishness.. We should ALL stop paying taxes.. We could spend the money better then the government I am sure..Help the people in THIS country ONLY!!!!!!
no its not fair, but the little people can't tell our people WE put in office what to do and what not to do. And thats our fault.I'm 70 years old.And its gonna take the younger generation to stop this.
I think that this would be totally unfair to all the Americans that have paid into the Social Security system!! Most of us do not receive enough Social Seurity to live on now. What will it be if we have to share with Mexico? Let Mexico take care of Mexico!!! I am a senior citizen and this makes me MAD!!!
It rots for all us older people that worked so hard for our own social security. I say let them earn it as we did
my son is no longer able to work due to a birth defect called spina bifida but social security turned him down 3 years ago. the thought of this Great Global Social Security Giveaway is so unfair to our citizens who have paid into Social Security for so many years!
I say let the Mexicans work for their own social security benefits the same as we US citizens are. We shouldn't mix the money with theirs. Mexico should cover their own retirement program. We are having enough problems with making sure the US government will have enough funds to pay our own taxpayers who have paid faithfully into the social security system all their lives. KEEP THE US DOLLARS IN THE US!!!
I am an active 71 year old man. Too old to care? No! But I can worry. Also I can be afraid. I worry about those younger than me and their future. I am somewhat concerned about my nest-egg and investments. However, I am afraid not of the outside world, but of my own national government; the only entity which can really destroy what I have and what will be. By the way I vote, go to church, volunteer at the local hospital, fix-up donated cars at no charge for women parents w/o transportation and enjoy my retirement freedom a great deal. But I am afraid our government is out of touch with the "real" people. Pa Kalb
-----I AGREE THAT MEXICO & OTHER COUNTRIES SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM & NOT ABUSE OURS. AN EARLIER COMMENT ABOUT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS NOT DOING WHAT WE WANT DONE IS RIGHT ON. FOR INSTANCE,83 PERCENT OF NORTH CAROLINAS CITIZENS ARE IN FAVOR OF THE TAX CUTS, BUT OUR DEMOCRATIC SENATOR EDWARDS VOTES AGAINST EVERY TAX CUT, AS DOES EVERY DEMOCRATIC MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WANTS TO TAKE OUR MONEY AWAY AND SPEND AS THEY SEE FIT, SUCH AS THIS TERRIBLE IDEA TO GIVE MEXICO OUR TAX DOLLARS. I WAS A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT FOR 46 YEARS, TIL I REALIZED THEY ONLY WANT POWER, AND TO KEEP RAISING TAXES FOR THEIR FOOLISHNESS. I CHANGED OVER TO INDEPENDANT, AND IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT, YOU CAN CHANGE OVER TO INDEPENDANT TOO. ONE MORE THING, IT IS THE DEMOCRATIC JUDGES THAT ARE TAKING GOD OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS, STATE HOUSES, COURTHOUSES, STATE AND FEDERAL PARK SYSTEM, AND OUT OF OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGENCE. I SAY, " LET'S VOTE THE DEMOCRATIC SCOUNDRELS OUT AND PUT GOD BACK IN OUR SCHOOLS..BOB MANGUM, TIMBERLAKE,N.C.
It's about time we let these well fed, fat and sassy over paid well pensioned congressmen, know they are working for us, the American public and not the other way around. I am dead set against any of my money going to illegels or to people who do not contribute.
Let the people that employed the "criminal" aliens in the past take care of them. After all the employers of the "criminal" aliens were the ones that profited at the expense of the other taxpayers. The "criminal" aliens were entitled welfare thereby subsidizing their employers for hiring said criminals!
take away their retirement plans and put them on social security plan and see if they still want to give so freely to mexico and others.
I, do not support this injustice, you have to work the required time to recieve any Social Security payments or they don't qualify.
Thank you for your web site. We heartily agree with the comments posted. Social Security money that we American taxpayers pay in should be used ONLY for Americans. Let Mexico set up their own system. We live about l00 miles from the border. There are large problems here. We believe in helping those in need, but within reason. Help them to help themselves and not handouts for life. There are people that employ illegally and not just here at the border. We are retired. We worked for our Social Security money. It is NOT a handout. Thank God we have a pension. We certainly could not live on Social Security alone. Sincerely, Gerald and Shirley Zimmerman God bless America!!!!!!!!!!
It would appear that the main qualification to become a senator or Representative is to prove you are a moron, totally without reason. How else could we have an agency suchg as SSS Selective Service System, and organization to handle drafting soldiers, in full existance with a large building, full staff and absolutely nothing to do since there is nmo draft in the USA today. These idiots in Washington care not for SS because they are not under SS. They have their own sweet, inviolate, system wherein they contribute nothing to it, yet when in office one termn, retire for life on FULL SALARY complete with COLA's Lee Roy Neal, age 90, school teacher still teaching in public schools and fighting to keep my SS because I am "double dipping" even though I paid into SS over fifty years
THANK YOU FOR THE SOCIAL SECURITY INFORMATION. I HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS TO ALL MY REPRESENTIVIES CONCERNING MY FEELINGS ABOUT THIS SUBJECT. FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID INTO THE SYSTEM FOR SOOOO MANY YEARS AND THOSE WHO ARE STILL PAYING, WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES, OUR COUNTRY IS BEING STOLEN FROM US WITH THE HELP OF THE GOVERNMENT. OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO KNOW HOW WE REALLY FEEL. I'M TIRED OF BEING "POLITICALLY CORRECT". LET'S JUST TELL IT LIKE IT IS! G. L. S. PETERSEN, SUN VALLEY, CAIFORNIA
Who elected this man?? And what in the world is he thinking??? Isn't he supposed to be representing the people (American workers!) who elected him? Has he had a psychiatric evaluation? I think he's biting the hand that feeds him!!! Perhaps we should find pity for his soul because he obviously isn't thinking clearly.
I cannot believe the total gall of OUR Senators, Congressmen, ect. wanting to give OUR Social Security to Mexicans, or anyone else. Why don't they share their retirement funds with others if they're concerned about them. I think we, Americans, should find some way to eliminate the "special retirement" all those big wigs get & force them to retire on Social Security just like everyone else. How can we stand by & let them keep doing this ? How much worse can it get ? May God help us help ourselves !!!
The whole system is screwed up. It does not now even remotely resemble its original intent. How about this?? Because I can not make it on Social Security alone, I am forced to work full time. Each and every week my pay check is robbed of Social Security and Medicare taxes even though I am "retired" and "collecting". Deduct these taxes from my Social Security check and what am I left with?? I'm not the one who's "collecting". Rather, the Government is. Isn't this double taxation? And isn't this terribly unjust?? But, who cares?? Jerry B. P.S. Is anyone aware that our elected Congressional representatives do not pay into Social Security?? They have a special retirement program that pays them their full salary AND THEY DON"Y PAY A CENT INTO IT !! If they had to pay into Social Security I think we'd see some problems solved very quickly!!
I think this is absolutely absurd !!! I work hard for my SMALL paycheck now. I cannot afford to have work done on my 10 yr old vehicle. Yet these "people" are being given everything handed to them on a GOLD platter. Our ELECTED officials need to live like we do for just one week and see how they like trying to make ends meet. They don't have to worry about it because our tax $$$$ take care of them on top of what they already had also. The American people are being screwed by the government and people who don't belong here.....Time to STOP this insanity.....NOW !!!!!! Get off our butts and do something, instead of saying my voice won't help.....BULLSHIT.. an AMERICAN in Indiana....
I feel very strongly that Social Security should stay in the United States where it belongs. If the Mexican Goverment want's their people to have Social Security they should set up a program of their own. It's time our Country did more for it's own people then for everyone else.
This is insane and a stab in the heart to American citizens who have worked and paid into the Social Security System for all of their adult lives, trusting the government to stand behind what was promised. What justification can they possible have to want to extend these benefits to people who have never contributed or even worked in the United States? Surely, no one in their right mind would back a proposal for something like this. But then again, the Congress does not come under Social Security, so they could care less. The American people need to stand up and be counted on this.
This makes me furious! The Democrats are so eager to give away the money WE worked for in order to get votes. Next thing you know they'll be allowing them to vote...Bad enough we have to give them welfare. No wonder their dying to get here to the land of reward the lazy and make the productive pay to take care of them while they're having more kids to get more money.. I'm disgusted!!! Grandma in California
*^%#@&??????+____--------&><<|}!!!!????_______________????? tHE WORST THING i CAN THINK OF ABOUT THIS IS , IT IS IN MY OPENION, ALMOST AS BAD AS 9/11 FOR WE THE ElDERLY, AND OUR CHILDREN AND ALL OTHER AMERICANS. Utterly Disgraceful.Under this regime , Our citizens and our country is heading toward Choas. We seem to be puppets on a string. WHY ARE LETTING THEM DO THIS TO US??????????? Granny
Oh yes..here we go again. Our people here in the U.S. have no jobs worth speaking of and now we are going to give more money away. Just when and where are the people who have supported the U.S.Government all their lives going to get their pay? Why are we not taking care of our own legally born people? Why can't the people here get anything when they are down and out? The U.S. Government needs to take care of the people here...not worry about all the aliens living the good life off of them and not giving more than they can afford. Our Senior Citizens DESERVE to live not in poverty, but a decent life where they can afford medications,bills,and food...WHAT ABOUT THE LEGALLY BORN AND LIFETIME WORKERS HERE IN THE U.S.A????????
This is way out of hand. Our Elected Officials have a duty to U.S. citizens to correct this situation immediately. This should have never been allowed. We have to stop this wasteful spending in many other areas also.
What in the world is wrong with our Gov.They are forever wanting to dip into our SSI.They give it to the foreign people and then say it is going broke.I wonder why Mr.President ? Our Elderly (I am one myself)have to make do with what little we get. If you had to LIVE ON what we have to,you would be trying to save SSI. Who, in GOD'S name do you think put the money there!! You say you are a Christ- ian and that means CHRIST -LIKE,but if you are,then live like one and stop Peter to pay Paul. It won't work forever!!!! Concerned,an AMERICAN
What bull shit. I vote NO to this maddness....... We each, must earn our way and expect all other well beings to earn their way as well. No hand outs to people who just wander into our country when we can't even keep up in helping the very people who worked hard all their lives paying for Social Security program. J. Mullinax Gainesville Florida
They are not only taking our jobs from our people, now they want our social security money. These people should be ashamed of there selfs and voted out of office.
I am A senior citizen who worked out of the home to raise my children, I do not think it is right to give our Social Secutity Benefits to Mexican's, Let them get their own system I live where A lot of Mexicans come to live, They say we came to the USA for A better life. Well let them work and earn A better life ,not give it to them on A silver Platter, We on Social Security worked for it, or had A member of our family work. A enraged widow on Social Security!
If you are not a citizen of the United States and have not worked your time, please forget about taking away from the SS fund. Giving away our money is why we are in the predicament we are in now. Always giving away to this country and that country and for what?, so they can come at us and terrorize us with the money we gave them. Let me refrase that, the Government that takes our tax dollars. If you figure your yearly salary against how much the government takes, you would be working a full month out of the year or more for the taxes. I think we need to take care of our own home front now and let the others be. Mexico has always been a sore spot for me because I lived on the Mexico border for many years and saw what goes on. They come on this side and get food stamps and welfare and then they take it back across the border and sometimes even put the groceries on the shelf of a store they own. Call it in and they will tell you they do not have the personnel to check out everyone. If they would stop giving away our money they would. We give to much to too many for nothing in return. Just look around you and see what goes on. The government must stop beating around the bush and do something. So what if they hurt some bodies feelings. Well too bad. The government do not mind hurting our feelings when it comes to taking our tax dollars and throwing them away. We need to clean up our government and get rid of the good ole boy act. Get our own government house in order and stop fussing and fighting like children. Work together for a better America. Forget that you are Republicans or Democrates. You are an American. That is all that counts when you are fighting for the rights of the American people.
As usual government officials propose something else without much thought and I wonder what is the benefit for the person who proposed this HR 219? Just think of all the industries that have moved to Mexico in order to obtain cheap labor and not have to pay pensions etc. It has robbed the AMERICAN PEOPLE OF JOBS and benefited the stockholders of big business!!The mexicans should be legal citizens and have to work here, not in Mexico, to be eligible for Soc. Sec. The years Mexicans have worked in Mexico at low low wages would not bring much into the "totalization".As usual the U.S. would be footing the bill.If the Mexicans become U.S. citizens and meet all the requirements to draw Soc. Sec. that the AMERICANS NOW HAVE TO MEET, then that is a different story. The Mexicans should not be able to go back to Mexico to then draw Soc. Sec. even if they became citizens and met all requirements for Soc. Sec. ONE THING IS FOR SURE.....IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL ELECTED GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MONEY TO LIVE ON AS MOST OF THEM HAVE INHERITED THEIR MONEY. THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT IS TO LIVE AS THE AVERAGE CITIZEN LIVES. THEY GO INTO OFFICE WITH MONEY AND COME OUT WITH MUCH MORE BENEFIT WISE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TO RUN FOR OFFICE OR HAVE MANY MANY SUPPORTERS THAT HAVE MONEY. WHEN WE VOTE FOR THESE POLITICANS, WHAT DO WE REALLY KNOW ABOUT ANY OF THEM???? NOTHING. There are many elderly, especialy women, that do not have enought money to pay for their prescriptions and there still is NO PRESCRIPTION PROGRAM TO ASSIST THEM WITH THE COST OF MEDICATIONS. DRUG COMPANIES JUST KEEP RAISING THEIR PRICES AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR PRICE GOUGING. TRUE THERE HAS TO BE RESEARCH, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CASES WHERE THERE IS CONSPIRACY TO KEEP MEDICATION FROM BEING MADE GENERIC??? There is a lot more I could say - but that is just what it would be "say".
I think the Social Security should be left so for the ones who payed into it, and not used against the government Debt. I also think the tax on social security checks should be recinded. Lets keep the social security as it was set up .
How can they even consider giving social security to some one from a different country who has never paid a cent into the social security system? The social securty system is only for United States citizens who have paid into it. I beleive we need to vote a lot of these people out of office. Something is terribly wrong with their thinking. Unless there is some graft going on here,which undoubtedly seems to be the case.
As a truly concerned citizen, I beg our administration to back the Scoial Security Preservation Act. Sara Smith
I believe that the Social Security System should be used for the retirement of AMERICAN CITIZENS who have put in the required quarters of work in order to draw from it at time of retirement; and also, for dependents of families of deceased CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES who have participated in the payroll deductions for the Social Security account as long as they worked and paid into the Soc. Sec. System in the United States. All we hear is that the system is going broke and age increases for retirement of our CITIZENS has already taken place. WE WORK LONGER TO SUPPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS...HOW CAN OUR CITIZENS SWALLOW THIS TYPE OF THINKING. WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THE ACCOUNT BORROWED FROM AND MONEY GIVEN FROM THE SOCIAL SECURITY ACCOUNT THAT IN NO WAY, SHAPE OR FORM WAS FOR PEOPLE/THINGS WHO SPENT THEIR LIFETIME OF WORK GIVING INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY SYSTEM AS WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED. This is very unfair!!! For illegal aliens to participate is a grave injustice. Where will it end? After Mexico, what other illegals will be given the privilege of the benefits we have worked for and supported. I PROPOSE THAT THE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES PENSIONS AND PERKS BE USED FOR THIS NO-BRAINER! I love my country, but this offends all my sensiblities! (It may get a lot of votes, but will it be worth it to OUR country?)
Why should we pay SS to Illegal Mexicans or other illegals in our country when the Sr. citizens can barely make ends meet that have paid into the system all of their lives. Let the congressmen and wives pay for these things they are trying to put into out system. They don't pay SS and yet they get the big FAT retirement that some of us never get. They need to do away with the big retirements the congressmen and wives get and also eliminate the congress being able to vote for their own pay raises. Which they have done for the last several raises. In comparison they got $5000 a year as compared to my $72.00 a year. There is something definitely wrong with this picture. IT TIME FOR A CHANGE.
This is NOT true! Always check one of the Urban Legend sites before buying any web 'Fact' - this one can be found de-bunked at snopes.com - The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/mexican.asp
Thank you for the opportunity to voice my thoughts on this subject. We definitely should keep Social Security for the older AMERICAN people that have worked hard all their lives and paid into Social Security in order to have a security blanket after reaching retirement age. Thank you
Found to be true facts at: http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/totalization.htm
According to the Social Security Administration, the U.S. has similar totalization agreements with other countries including Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, Canada Norway, and the United Kingdom. Critics are hopping mad about a totalization agreement with Mexico. They say it will cost upwards to one billion dollars to provide Social Security benefits to Mexicans who will qualify. They say that at a time when the Social Security system is such a focus of concern, it's not time to grant such benefits to such a large group of foreigners. Supporters say totalization benefits large numbers of Americans too, not just foreigners in the U.S.. One of the problems, according to the Social Security Administration, is that Americans, for example, who have worked in both the U.S. and a foreign country may end up being double taxed for retirement benefits. Additionally, there are some workers who have worked, for example, for a period of time in the United States then worked for a period of time in a foreign country, but failed to qualify for benefits in either country. The totalization agreements allow both U.S. and foreign workers to qualify for benefits based on the combined coverage of both countries.. According to the Washington Post, there is an estimated 37,000 Mexicans who worked legally in the United States and paid into Social Security but have not been able to collect their checks. One of the controversies of totalization is that it may include thousands of foreign workers who were in the U.S. illegally but did pay into Social Security. Immigration reform in 1996 cut their benefits.
This is too unbelieveable to be true. Surely, the politians can't be THAT supid!!!
Regarding the social security for the Mexicans.....we have no one to blame but ourselves for voting these same people in year after year ...Ernie
I think this thing is just ridiculous. I now understand how this screwed up government works. It's just on big give-away system. That is, to everyone who wants it. As long as the Senator's and Representive get their tax free crap. I will never vote again, and if I do, it surely won't be for any of these stupid people who are up there now!!!!!!!!!
Now I wonder why I ever retired from the military to represent such a useless type of political representatives that we don't have. I surely wouldn't be defending this type of government.
I TOOK THE TROUBLE TO LOOK UP THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION IN CONGRESS. THERE IS A BILL #HR 219, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PAYING BENEFITS TO MEXICANS OR ANYONE ELSE. IT HAS TO DO WITH INVESTING THE SOC. SEC. TRUST FUND IN US OBLIGATIONS. WHERE DID THE IDEA OF SOC. SEC. TO MEXICANS COME FROM. I HAVE NOT SEEN OR HEARD OF IT I'M SUSPICIOUS THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SCAM OR MADE UP STUFF TO IRRITATE PEOPLE!!!
With the problems we have of taking care of the people that has earned S.S., how can this be? S.S. is not an entitlement; it is earned.
Iam a 70 year old widow who has to work fulltime in order to get medical benefits. Although I have worked at my present job for almost 20 years there is no pension plan. I would only get my husbands social security which is not high. I have worked since I was 17. I have many medical problems COPD and oesterosis,etc so need the benefits that medicare cannot afford. I resent an illegal alian coming in, taking jobs from citizes, mostly likely not paying any taxes, and now wanting to take from our Senior Citizens and still not contribute to the welfare of this country. I wish the politicians would see that most hard working people need their social security intact and not taken away by a foreign nation. A lot of our factoreies and industries moved down into Mexico causing many American citizens to lose jobs and hurt our economy. And what have the people of Mexico dome for us lately except take advantage of our generosity.
Hello I say it isn't right cause for one thing they don't like in our state and they don't work here. Our money should go to our people not the mexicans Skuhn1@pa.net
keep ss for the american's who paid into all their life not all the out siders . it's not fair to our country and it;s people
WHY DO WE THINK YOU CAN BUY LOYAL FRIENDS ? IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THE HISTORY OF MANKINED ! I LIKE MOST AMERICAN ( CITIZENS ) WORKED AND MADE OUR PAYMENTS FOR MORE THAN 65 YEARS, I STARTED WORK AT THE AGE OF TEN, AND THAT WAS NOT UNCOMMON BACK IN THE 30s EVERY MEMBER IN THE FAMLY WORKED AND POOLED THERE MONY TO SURVIVE THE ROTTEN DEPRESION YEARS, WERE MILLIONS OF US WERE OUT OF WORK, OR IF WE COULD FIND WORK IT WAS .35CENTS AN HOUR, HERE IN THE U.S.A, EVERY DANGERIOUS JOB YOU CAN IMAGIN ! WINDOW WASHER FROM THE 50 FLOOR WINDS AT 45 M.P.H, tHEN CAME THE WAR, IF THE HOME FRONT DIN'T KILL YOU THEY HAD ANOTHER WAY TO GET YOU KILLED, @ $21.00 A MONTH, YOU BABY BOOMERS AND YOUR KIDS DONT KNOW YOUR ASS FROME A WHOLE IN THE GROUND, WE PAYED INTO SOCIAL SECURITY ALL OUR LIVES, AND WE BROKE OUR ASSES TO DO IT, NOW THIS M----- F--- GOVERMENT WANTS GIVE AWAY MORE OF OUR MONIES ? BULL S--- THAT BUNCH IN THE STATE DEPTMENT ARE A BUNCH OF FAG'S & FERRYS ALWAYS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE ! AND YOU CAN TAKE YOUR POLITICALLY CORRECT B.S, & SHOVE IT WERE THE SUN DONT SHINE, I SERVED IN WWII & KOREA, WET BACKS OUT ! U N OUT! AMERICAN HATERS OUT! FLAG BURNERS OUT! RAG HEADS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL U.S.A, NATION ? GET TO F--- OUT OUT OUT ! REMEMBER SEPTEMBER ! AND ANYONE THAT HAS NOT WORKED AT LEAST 15 YEARS IN THE U.S.A, NO NO NO! SOCIAL SECURITY EVER ! LETS PUT AMERICANS FIRST ! AND ALWAYS ! STAMP OUT ANY ONE THAT HATES U.S, STAND BEHIND THE FIRST AMENDMENT FREEDOME OF SPEACH & THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARM'S, A WAR VETERAN THAT ALWAYS WORKED FOR A LIVEING! P.S. SHOOT ALL THE DRUG PUSHERS !!!!! DONT LIKE IT ??? T.S,
It would be better if this wasn't labeled as conserative. We who are liberals don't want to give our Social Security money away either. Polly.
I THINK THIS IS A TRAVESTY. I LIKE ALL AMERICANS WORKED HARD FOR YEARS AND I NOW HAVE SEVERE RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS. I AM NOW GETTING SOCIAL SECURITY AND WHAT I GET IM THANKFUL FOR. I SAY LET MEXICO TAKE CARE OF THIER OWN.WE IN THIS COUNTRY HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS TO COPE WITH.
I have always said,"they're too many foreigners allowed in this country in the first place",there should be stricter laws before you can get in this country, when they come here they have more benefits than the Americans do, and we've worked and payed S.S. all our working years,that's all I'm going to say about it,I get too upset.
Bottom Line,It is time to shut the doors and load the illegals up and ship them back where they came from. We can not even support our own people./
I think we should put all the legislatures that think up such stupid things and think the american people won't know what they are doing, on social security and let them live on it for the rest of their lives. I think they would change their thinking, they are the only people that can vote themselves a raise. They care little about the rest of the people in the U.S. They try to make sure that they have money spent in their state for stupid things so they will get relected again. I don't trust any of them, they are all a bunch of crooks.
This is outrageous, and we thank you for alerting people to what is going on. We believe there should be a moratorium on all immigration for at least several years.
I think that they should send all these mexican's and other illegal people back to there own country and take care of the United States and quit giving our money away for the least little thing to the other countries. None of them are helping us in any way. Take the money away that the politicians are getting and bring their pay down to our level and see then how they like it.
social security was never operated as a fiduciary fund and congress back in 1962 admitted that it was just another TAX. If an American tried to start a scheme like SS the police would put them in jail. In civilian jargon it would be called a ponzi scheme. the only difference is with our government you are requiered to participate.As hard as it is try to save some thing for your self. SS will never do any thing but buy you a few extras.Those on it in the future will never get back what they put in. WHAT A GREAT INVESTMENT.
Is this really true? If so I don't like it. 1. Only those United States citizens that have worked and have earned it from the time they started paying into Social Security are deserving of any benefit from it. 2. If the illegals want the benefits of this country they need to work for it to receive the Social Security benefits.
I stand the same as you on this subject. There is something wrong with this picture. The American people have paid into Social Security for many years out of their, blood sweat and tears in their pay checks as well as the employers paying into it to, and what right does any government officials have, to give illegal aliens, or people that come into this country the right to get it, when most don't plan on staying here anyway, our money that we paid into it, and to help when we get old. They give these people all the breaks in the book as it is, providing homes, cars, electricity, and food, when our own people who need, they can't get it. So where the scales of right and wrong here, it is not being fair here, for the very people who put these officials into office. Their idea is, we got it, why not buy peoples votes by giving everything to them. I for one think they should be required to speak English in the work places, and should not be given everything on a silver platter, and it is about time to take a stand on this highway robbery. If they want to give these people something , dig down deep in their own pockets, not the taxpayers. Most of these people have businesses, drive expensive cars, live really nice neighborhoods, thats more than the average person gets for the fruit of their labor. I'm on Social Security, they gave me a raise of eight dollars and took that eight dollars, plus another $52.00 away for medicare, that most of the doctors around here, hospitals and etc., won't let you even in the door, if you have medicare, especially if that is all you have for income. And the cost of living just keeps going up, and up and up. Where does it all end. I think govenment needs to learn accounting and balancing, staying with (in the budget), the USA's check book. And learn not to be so free with the taxpayer's money, that thay were voted in by, to protect their interest. I also would like to know how come our senators, and the congress get paid on a different scale when they are on Social Security. Maybe they need to learn the basic's on how to manage their same money from social security, food, housing, garbage, electricity, water, medical, precriptions and etc, that we get. It is a very tragic thing our seniors being treated the way they are in this country. They can't even get the marriage penalty, taken off, and yet they find the time to give our Social Security Monies away to free loaders, that haven't earned their years to draw it like the rest of us. They should have to become citizens first, and have to work and pay into the Social Security so many years , like retirements do,and like we do, before they are eligible to draw it. Thank you for letting me to voice my opinion, on this and other issues. Sincerely elserenity
Although this does not surprise me it certainly p&sses me off. I live in Nevada and right now they are saying our "Budget" is way off. Please do not think I am prejedice but if these guys would quit making everything in english and spanish we would have a ton of money. I say get every one of them out of the US and now and stay out. I could be wrong here but our language is ENGLISH and if you can't read it and speak it then GET OUT!!! If you think I am being too harsh, next time you are in Las Vegas take a little ride around the neighborhoods and see what the mexican people are doing to it. It is all trashed, they throw trash all over and could give a you now what about it. Most of them are here in the US working to save money to go back to mexico. I was forced to move from where I grew up, I don't speak the language and I was tired of beer parties and that stupid stupid music.
i think this stinks. we the american people pay into this all the time we work. when its time to retire we only get a percent of what we put into this fund . then you want to bring mexican here that hasnt paid into this fund . what about our children when they want to draw social security. you already say there will not be enough money for them.what is this world coming to. we should take care of our own
Claim: A bill currently before Congress (HR 219) would prevent Mexicans who worked in the USA illegally from claiming Social Security benefits. Status: False. Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2003] Origins: While it is true the Bush administration is working on an accord that would allow some Mexican citizens to claim benefits from the U.S. Social Security system, two of the key points in the above message -- that this accord will apply to Mexicans who worked in the USA illegally, and that the accord can be nullified through the passage of a bill currently before Congress (HR219) -- are wrong. The totalization plan now under discussion between the Bush administration and the Mexican government (both parties still describe the discussions as "informal and preliminary") would allow Mexican citizens who paid into the U.S. Social Security fund while legally employed in the USA to collect the benefits they accrued even if they return to their homeland. Mexicans who labored in the U.S. legally and who paid into the U.S. Social Security plan would no longer be penalized for having gone back to their country of citizenship, nor would they lose retirement benefits because, having split their working lives across two countries, they failed to meet the minimum requirements of either country's social security system. Totalization is nothing new, nor does it apply only to workers from Mexico. The United States has been negotiating such agreements with other governments since the late 1970s and currently has them in place with twenty other countries. These agreements allow workers to "totalize" the number of years they have toiled in both countries to meet the minimum number of years required to qualify for benefits in one of the systems. Many immigrants (from Mexico and elsewhere) enter the USA illegally and manage to secure jobs with the aid of forged or borrowed documents. Some of these immigrants go on to become legal residents, and it is these formerly illegal workers who are the subject of U.S. Representative (from Texas) Ron Paul's concerns, because at least one Mexican official has stated he hoped that if there were a totalization agreement between the U.S. and Mexico, benefits could be adjusted upward for now-legal Mexican workers who once labored in the United States illegally and paid into the system using false Social Security numbers. However, that a Mexical official may have such a scheme on his wish list doesn't mean that the U.S. plans to implement it, and the logistics of managing such a scheme would tend to rule against it. How could now-legal workers be matched to payments they made years earlier under false Social Security numbers? And if the formerly illegal workers couldn't be matched to their payments, how would anyone know how much benefit (if any) each of those workers had accrued? Without the checks and balances inherent to a "one number per one guy" system, the potential for fraud would be limitless. (It's easy to misread the comments from Rep. Paul quoted above as applying to Mexican laborers who continue to work in the U.S. illegally, but that isn't the issue being addressed. Undocumented Mexican workers who toil in the U.S. aren't part of the equation, although the spectre of a clamoring horde of illegals overwhelming the U.S. Social Security system is broadly hinted at in this "Let's defend Social Security!" piece. Those who continue to work in the U.S. illegally would have no recourse for claiming Social Security benefits under the accord as currently envisioned.) A totalization agreement with Mexico would cover Mexican citizens who worked in the USA legally and afterwards moved back home. The details of the accord -- how much of a benefit they would be entitled to, how long they'd have had to have worked in either country, whether the scale of payments made to beneficiaries would conform to U.S. or Mexican retirement plans -- haven't been released yet. However, it's reasonable to assume those charged with managing the Social Security totalization accord would engineer the agreement in such a way as to head off easily foreseeable abuse, cutting off at the knees the blood-boiling notion of former illegals working in the USA for all of two weeks then forever afterwards sucking the American public's tit. At its heart, the question of a Social Security totalization agreement with Mexico is one of raw economics. About 94,000 beneficiaries living abroad are serviced under the twenty agreements that now exist with other countries. A Mexican agreement could bring another 162,000 into the fold in just the first five years, and one independent estimate put the total potential expenditure at $1 billion a year. That is a large sum, yet one that begins to fall into context when measured against the $372 billion in Social Security benefits currently being paid to 46.4 million recipients. Even so, inking such an agreement with Mexico would place a further strain on Social Security resources, including the staffing of positions to administer the additional claims and possibly the erection of a new building. (The $1 billion a year in Social Security benefits themselves shouldn't really be counted in this assessment, because those are monies owed to legal workers who've been paying into the plan. That they are Mexicans who have gone back to Mexico doesn't change that it was their money all along, and the U.S. has been holding onto it.) The attempt to tie Rep. Paul's proposed HR219 bill to a statement against a totalization agreement with Mexico is also misleading. The Social Security Preservation Act of 2003 which Rep. Paul introduced in the House on 7 January 2003 seeks "to amend title II of the Social Security Act to ensure the integrity of the Social Security trust funds by requiring the Managing Trustee to invest the annual surplus of such trust funds in marketable interest-bearing obligations of the United States and certificates of deposit in depository institutions insured by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, and to protect such trust funds from the public debt limit" -- in other words, it's a plan to stop the federal government from borrowing against Social Security's annual surplus revenue to fund other government programs (a favorite scheme for balancing deficit budgets). Nothing in the text of HR219 has anything to do with totalization agreements in general or a totalization agreement with Mexico in particular. (Indeed, the current HR219 couldn't possibly have anything to do with the totalization accord with Mexico now being worked on by the Bush administration, because it's simply a re-introduction of a bill first submitted to Congress on 3 January 2001 -- well before work began on the planned accord, and more than two weeks before President Bush even took office!) Americans who heed the message quoted above are therefore being stampeded into badgering their Congressional representatives to support H.R. 219 for reasons that have nothing to do with the content of that bill. Love, Aunt Norma
Let's keep the Social Security benefits ONLY IN THE USA.....forget this Mexico contribution business. Let them set up their own Social Security system....not use the USA's money. Please do something about this!!!! Thank you.
I Vivian Edwards Think Social Security should be used fot the vary purpose it was ment for to help the working class when they retire for most of the older people did not make enough to live on much less be able to save for there future, They did that once befor by letting the Doctors and laywers pay a small fee to have the benafits everyone else had to work there whole life to get what little the recive, I am with the Senitor from Tx pray he makes it work Thank you
I want to comment to those individuals who are staking their responces on what they read on snopes.com. Where is it that you find written anywhere on snopes that they know what they are talking about? I have looked at their site and it seems to be written by a husband and wife team that do not back up what they say with facts. I can not find where it is substanciated with any known sources. Try reading truthorfiction.com They have factual writings.
I believe we should start thinking of our own people in the U.S and not try to solve everyone elses problems. Bush said the war is over--how come our boys are still being killed--another political war like Vietnam!!! Maybe Bush should send his daughters over there to see how nice it is!!
Keep Social Security for those that worked for it. Send Mexicans BACK TO MEXICO Enough of this crap going on in our country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thisis indeed a sad and stupid idea. However, the Social Security system is in far greater danger from the raid upon it by the current and past administrations. Why don't you explore that instead of wasting space and effort on a preposterous notion that can never pass the congress?
The Bible says take care of your own family first .which means take care of america first and then help others . It is our money that the President is spending. They gave them our Jobs. and then pay them a few pennys. President Movie Star Reagan started paying them to take our jobs to other countrys. It is time we got rid of people like that when we vote.Get some one that puts our U.S. first. Mary Alderson
Social Security was instituted to provide American Citizens with a retirement benefit. As a prerequisite to enjoying any of the privileges of our wonderful country, all persons wishing to partake in these benefits should be required, to become useful citizens, learn our language (this includes getting a drivers license, welfare benefits, medicaid, unemployment etc) I am tired of having my tax dollars go to those who come here solely to abuse our generosity.
I know too much about our crooked government to be alive. The reason that our gov. officials votes on a law, bill, act, etc the way they do,is because they are controlled by the use of money. The jews have the money and controlls the Masonic Lodges in every state in the U.S. Each lodge has got to have some jew ancestridge in it (perferably 3, if possible). These masonic members (masons), takes care of their own and sets out to get their man elected to do whatever they want. Most all of these politicains are masons or Lions Club memebers and they control your gov. The Masons are world wide and the Lions Club is in 190 countries. I once was in a lodge and the man that we helped to get elected and worked for, was a U.S.Senator, In The Judicial Branch Of Congress...it was a trade off, we keep him elected in power and he helps us in return, scratch my back and I scratch yours sort of thing. Have you ever seen a person get out of trouble over and over and not get put away for a looong time..? This is what I'm talking about... Each State gives a charter to those that starts up a mason or masonic lodge, and there can be more than one to a town that has any size. These lodges are CULTS, just read on the inter-net, it's all there...took me a looong time to find. If you don't know how to read and figure it out then you are lost ;-) but like I said I belonged to a lodge and I know...yes I was a spy for the gov. officials, against my neighbors, friends and even my own kin people like so many are today, until I got out and now they all turned against me...that's the price one has to pay, sometimes the only way out is by death, for one has to take a satanic oath and to believe that their god is JoaBulOn...look it up on the net...the word JoaBulOn and you will see...the reason I'm telling all this, is a member started this by passing the word on me and he was wrong...so now I spread the word back and let the world know ;-) I'll spread the word until they take my life...NOW back to the cause of the gov. doing crazy things with our tax dollars. We don't govern the government like we supposed to, they govern us. They have set it up this way, with the jews in the masonic lodges trying for that one world order...Pesident Bush calls it a one world govenment to fool people of the satanic cult's plan called the one world order...look one world order up on the net and yes masons have filtered in and are in control of our government. A MASON CAN BE ANYONE. The jews tried this in Germany, that's the reason Hitler killed alot of them. I'm sick of my government keeping all the good people down and helping the ones that are cult members to get ahead in life and a better way of living...ALL IN ALL, I PREDICT, THE ONLY WAY TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK IS ANOTHER CIVIL WAR AND TO OUST ALL CULTS AND CULT MEMBERS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY
I think it is the most ridiculous thing I have ver heard of. I have worked long and hard for my Social Security check. I am still working at age 69. Our government needs to rethink this whole thing.
I think they should leave our Socical Security alone. They have made the deficit and they should get their selves out of it and leave the only income for us seniors alone. We have paid into this all our lives and this is all we have to live on and that is not enough. For the poor folks that is. The rich have gotten more than their share. Where is the bentifits that for the poor that are struggling every day just to stay alive. Where is the promised prescription drug relief for the poor. The poor picks up the tab for the rich by paying tax's and the rich get tax relief. Now do you call that fair? There is coming a day of judgement when our leaders will stand before God and try to explain away why they couldn't help the poor. Didn't Jesus say, that blessed are the poor in spirit for they shall see God? Thank you for letting me state the way I feel. Ann
this is backed by democrats and republicans go to www.numbersusa.com and see which elected officals vote to help illegals stay and work here, congressman tom tancredo and those who have joined him for immigration reform are the olny hope of stoping this crap
This is an insult to all hard working Americans and any Jack ass that votes for this crap should be deported to Mexico immediately.
It is about time the people being paid by the American people start thinking about Americans. The politicians make sure they are well provided for while in office and after. They don't care that the American workers can no longer afford medical insurance and are going without medical care and medicine. I cannot understsand wehy foreigners are always their top priority
Even as Social Security is set up now, we help those that migrate to our country for the first year. We pay for their medical etc. Let them pay it back!!!! As a retired person I pay a LOT for my prescriptions. We put into Social Security but our children have no reason to believe they will benefit from all the money they put into it. Lets put it to a vote, have our government officials live on Social Security. THEN it would be secure. Go for it Ron Paul!! B.H.
And I am half American and just because my Dad died before I could find him. I am not allowed to live in the USA. I have letters and documents to proove who I am The USA has some real evil people allowed to come in. But not its own flesh and blood. Thanks America for nothing.
CAN ANYONE ANYONE TELL ME WHY I AM NOT ALLOWED TO COME AND LIVE IN THE USA. I AM HALF AMERICAN. BUT SINCE MY DAD DIED NOT LONG BEFORE I FOUND HIM. THE GOVERNMENT ABSOLUTELY HATES ITS WARBABIES. I HAVE DOCUMENTS AND PHOTOS AND ALL SORTS TO SAY WHO I AM I EVEN HAVE MY DADS SCHOOL RECORDS DRIVERS LICENCE,PHOTOS ETC. I AM A TOTALLY HONEST HARDWORKING PERSON. PLEASE WRITE firstname.lastname@example.org PS I LOVE THE USA AND WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO STAY LEGALLY.
this sucks ,,,how stupid can you get
No wonder there are so many people going crazy in this USA, This is beyond belief, but as we know, these things happen all the time. I say YES let our politicians get on SS rather than the cushie retirement they have and see how quick they'd be protecting it. We have alot of foreigners sucking off the U.S., come here and are given special privileges to be able to get jobs over U.S, citizens. Some in goverment jobs, such as postal workers, and they. treat you like they are doing you a favor to wait on you. Its not just the Mexicans in my area who are a pain in the ---. I say take care of the American people first, our Veterans for one, then take care of the debt owed to many American's 'CALLED THE NOTCH YEARS'. My husband and I are both in those years and he is 80 years old and I am soon to be 77 years old and we have been cheated out of S.S. money ever since we stated drawing S.S. They are waiting for all those of us in those Notch years to die then they won't have to be bothered with owing us any more. Nice way to treat a WW2 Vet isn't it. Our Goverment needs a real house cleaning, Naional and state levels both. They need to know how to balance the check book like we all have to do. God help us with a bunch of idiots running our goverment. I believe there should be a terrible uprising by the people if they go on with this. Ruth in Washington State
This is absolutely ludicrous!..I have never heard of a more stupid Idea!...And if we do help the Mexicans are they going to turn over the Americans who are there that are killers and rapists and have committed all sorts of crimes in the US and seek impunity and live as free citizens in Mexico...I bet not!...I guess they would be eligible for Social Security too!..What a joke!.
If a Mexican comes to America, & becomes a citizen, works here as we do & pays into Social Security, he is eligible for Social Security. It should not be sent to Mexico. Mercy, the Government is always telling us there is not enough in Social Security. Why do they want to give what we have away? There is no understanding our Government. Hazel Nowlin
This is outragies to think my husband worked for 38 years to reieve his SS benfiets and illegal alens can colect from our system is pure and simpley crazy. Maybe if our elected officeals paid into S.S. they would not even think of letting ths hapening! No they get their full pay for the rest of thrir lives! Even after only one term in office!So what do they care about the little guy on the street, in the factorys, working in grase pits for years(as my husband)on trucks or in mills driving tracter trailers to make sure every american gets the goods they need for a decent life. And what about the fiels hands, plumers, builders, schoole teachers, and every kind of job you can think of. Where is the fairness in this! As an american I think this WRONG! I couldn't get help when after 13 years on a job and got hurt and "wasn't eligable" Thank you all in Washington for scewing the average American over once again from you high and mighty Mt.! My husband also served 8 yearsin the U.S. Airforce, during theVietnam War! how many you aliens can say they did that? Please don't do this to the hard working regular Joe in American! An American Born citizan, Constance Clark 383 Eastport Road Stetson, M.E 04488 vie way of Wy. and Ma.
IF THAT IS THRU AND OUR GOVERMANT LET SOME THING LIKE THAT HAPEN AND GIVE OUR SOCIAL SECURITY TO THE MEXICANS WHEN THERE NEVER PAID A DIME IN TO IT. I ONLY CAN SAY AMERICA IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN. GOD HELP US
I'm 70 years old....a retired U.S.Air Force Veteran....and I am furious that any elected politician in our beloved country would even think of selling out our Social Security System to a vast amount of foreignors who haven't paid into it....Are these politicians so well-healed with their pensions and extra benefits which they themselves voted for....that they really don't care about the elderly and the veterans who are retired and on fixed incomes with no pensions to carry them through.....and while we are on the subject of "blind freedom" to foreignors....let's look at the unfair issue of local governments who give free instruction in our public schools to the foreign children to learn English. The increased real estate taxes on the backs of senior citizens and veterans to pay for this un-american give-away to teach English as a so- called "second language" is an insult to our american identity....and most of these foreignors have recently purchased million dollar homes here and have Mercede's and Jaguars on their driveways...Why doesn't the villages charge these money grabers an annual fee of say $1000 to teach their kids English.....
I think this is totally outragious and the American citizen has been stepped on and pushed aside and forgotten about too much and too long. All these benefits and advantages for foreigners free schooling in colleges which we as Americans have to take out loans or re-mortgage their house and pay this back to send their own children to college while some poor illegal alien is sitting right next to my kid who is not a citizen and doesn't pay a dime for his education. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! And I am one hard working american who is sick and tired of being sick and tired.
You start out your page with, How stupid can our politicians be. You should say, how stupid can Americans be? Freedom is not free. Vigilance is the price of Liberty! Our congress and the Presidents have been spending the social security for years and years. It is a ponzi scheme that any citizen would be put in jail for. The same type of scheme operates as the Federal Reserve Board. Wake up America! Read alternative news. The major media is bought and paid for by the elite. Both parties contribute to the stealing of our freedoms and liberties with using our own tax monies which we submit like a bunch of lemmings. Our kids have been sold into slavery while we watch sitcoms on TV, too lazy to raise our own kids, instead sending them to government schools to learn political correctness rather than the three r's. We get the government we deserve. Wake up America!
Aaaaaaaaaaaargh!!! What the ??? This ranks right up there with the MILLIONS of dollars the SSA has paid out to DEAD people. I really can't post my comments on this subject. You don't even wanta know.....
Well...I'm a receiver of a social security check every month for almost ten years now. My wife has been getting hers for six years. We both worked hard all our young years to pay into this system and were promised to receive these checks which we earned. This is no gift from our country...it is a "promise" that we expect our government in Washington to honor and preserve. We could not survive well without these checks,so we are thankful that our country has been able to keep it's promise that we paid for originally. But now there is a cloud hanging over our nations head which threatens the "promise" that was made many years ago. What bothers me is the response I get when I speak to a twenty year old,and they say, "There won't be Social Security for me when I'm your age!" Now that's the core of our nations problem for the future.We must give our young people the confidence that we had when we were young and working. How do we do that? Well...to start with, we must not allow any foreigners to receive any social security checks who have not paid into the system fully as american citizens.They must be here legally,no matter what country they left.
First I must say, IF ALL OF OUR CONGRESS AND SENATORS WERE PAYING INTO THE SOCIAL SECURITY LIKE ALL AMERICANS SHOULD, WE WOULD NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. THEY TREAT EACH OTHER LIKE PRIMA DONAS. US, THE BACKBONE OF AMERICANS, THE WORKERS AS IF WE ARE PROFESSIONAL DONORS. I WORKED HARD FOR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO RECEIVE IN SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS. I HAVE REQUESTED DISABILITY SS BECAUSE I HAVE SOME SETBACKS. I HAVE TO GO THRU HELL TO EVEN REQUEST SS DISABILITY. NOW THEY WANT TO GIVE IT TO ANY ALIEN WHO STEPS FOOT ON AMERICAN SOIL. I THINK THEY SHOULD CLOSE THE DOORS TO THE WHOLE DAMN WORLD UNTIL WE EARN RESPECT INSTEAD OF GIVING OUT FISTS FULL OF MONEY TO THOSE BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SPEAK ENGLISH. WE GIVE ENOUGH AID TO THOSE COUNTRIES AND THAT IS EVEN TOO MUCH FOR WHAT WE GET BACK. WE ARE SAVING ABOUT 17 MILLION DOLLARS PER MONTH BECAUSE WE, YES WE WHO ARE DRAWING SS BENEFITS ARE USING THE "ELECTRONIC DEPOSIT SYSTEM". I NEVER HEARD ONE WORD THAT BECAUSE WE ARE SMART TO SAVE THAT WE WILL GET A RAISE. NO WAY, THAT IS TOO EASY, OUR PRIMA DONNA LEADERS WANT TO GIVE IT TO SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT SOCIAL SECURITY IS.
Let mexico take care of their own. We need to let our congress know what we expect of them. protect our Social Security!!!. I think it's more than Mexico, other areas should be looked into also.
PERSONALY I THINK ANYONE THAT RECIVES SOCIAL SECURTY SHOULD HAVE TO LIVE IN THE U.S.A.. If they chose to leave no pay. but that they should have to work and pay into S>C> for at least 20 Years. to recive any pay. That would help reserve for one that have payed into it. Richard Taylor.
WHAT AN INTERESTING MESSAGE ABOUT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY. I FOR ONE PLAN ON SENDING THIS TO ALL MY FRIENDS. I AM 66 YEARS OLD AND JUST STARTED TO GET MY SOCIAL SECURITY FULL BENIFITS. I NEED TO PLAN EVERYTHING I DO WITH MY MONEY. THEY SAY NOW I CAN GO BACK TO WORK AND MAKE AS MUCH AS I WANT WITHOUT PAYING EXTRA INTO THEM. WHO WANTS TO GO BACK TO WORK? I WORKED HARD FOR MY MONEY AND FELL I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY MY RETIREMENT. SO I AGREE THAT MEXICO AND PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES SHOUD HAVE TO WORK JUST AS HARD AS WE HAVE FOR THEIR MONIES FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
i would like to say that OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD STOP HELPING ALL THESE COUNTRIES AND SHOULD HELP THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED ALL THEIR LIVES AND ARE GETTING HURT. THE FIRST THING THE GOVERNMENT DOES IS TAKE BENEFITS AWAY FROM THE ELDERLY. IS THERE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? WE,RE ALWAYS THERE FOR THEM BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE HERE?
I don't understand how some of our legislators can give away the benefits American workers have earned. Foreigners who have not earned these benefits should not be able to draw Social Security.
WHAT A SLAP IN THE FACE FOR ALL AMERICANS THAT HAVE WORKED THERE BUTTS OFF THINKING THAT sOCIAL SECURITY WOULD HELP WHEN YOU ARE FINALLY ABLE TO RETIRE. aMERICA IS KNOWN FOR HELPING ALL OTHER COUNTRIES AND THERE PEOPLE WHILE WE HAVE SO MANY,MANY HERE THAT ARE TRUE AMERICAN'S THAT NEED A BOOST. gIVE IT AWAY TO THE UNDESERVING AND LET OUR OWN GOT TO HELL.
this s not fair to us , they say it is going broke , now they want to send it to mexico, what can we do?
I think the Social Security should be for the Americans who have worked all their lives for it. If Mexico wants their people to have it then let them work for it!
i believe government has gone beyond the contol of the people,for the people by the poeple,if our great fore fahters had any idea ,how corrupt our leaders would become,they would turn over in there graves . if our elected politicians and president can't get inline with the concerns of this country,perhaps it's time to boot there asses out of office,after all that is our god given right to do just that,when they don't perform to our expectations . i do not care for this president or his elected cabinet,i believe they are crooks opearating at the highest levels,of this land . Any one who would condone such actions of ,falseafication of election results,and steal the most highest n respected seat of office ,we hold precious,to our heritage,n our history,and to this land should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law . any time a country wage's war,in the face of a lie,and then ,turns and does the same thing ,as the heads of the people we just took out of power,are nothing but gangsters ,above the law ,only if the people of this nation allows them to get a way with it. sincerely viet nam veterean marine corp 1970 !oooohrah for the lives lost in good battle,and god foregive us for those lost in unforegiveable wars,of no honor !
My husband and I just read the article.......we are horrified at the thought or the possibility of foreigners (Mexicans in particular) coming to the U.S. under these circumstances. It is absolutely wrong...They know what they are doing and their "sweet little smiles" and "grins" etc etc will not get it with us. They know that they can work here a while and get SS and go back home and sit under a tree, do nothing and live on Sco Sec. We cannot allow this. America needs to stand up and take a check on such things and stop the foreigners from robbing us in more ways than the SS. Keep working, please to stop this. Sincerely, Emily and Sam Weiland.(we both have worked hard all of our lives...my husband at 77 yrs old is still working.)
My husband and I just read the article.......we are horrified at the thought or the possibility of foreigners (Mexicans in particular) coming to the U.S. under these circumstances. It is absolutely wrong...They know what they are doing and their "sweet little smiles" and "grins" etc etc will not get it with us. They know that they can work here a while and get SS and go back home and sit under a tree, do nothing and live on Sco Sec. We cannot allow this. America needs to stand up and take a check on such things and stop the foreigners from robbing us in more ways than the SS. Keep working, please to stop this. Sincerely, Emily and Sam Weiland.(we both have worked hard all of our lives...my husband at 77 yrs old is still working.)
Well here are my comments. Poor Mexicans, after AMERICA and Americans get the MOST of them paying them pennies and treating them like dirt even if they work THEIR BACKS OFF you have the nerve to talk about given Social Security, yes they earn it even if they did not work as many years as you people did, besides YOU ARE ALL FOREIGNERS because the only true AMERICANS are the INDIANS the KIND OF WORK that you people make them do is worth all the Social Security MOney they can earn. Don't forget you collect Social Security from them even if you do nor report it. THINK ABOUT IT ARE YOU A TRUE AMERICAN????? ONE MORE THING what would you do without the doctors foreigners that you get in the States because you AMERICANS can not come out with enough doctors is it because they don't have the brains????
I am 74 years old,and this idiot bill will not affect me, but I cannot with all my powerful thinking who has the gut to make up such a bill. I for one feel if they want a revolution in the United State this would probably do it. My God let the powers to be KILL THIS BILL. Thank-you
This does not surprise me at all. Our congress wants to take care of everybody but the citizens of the United States and it seems to be getting worse with each session of congress!
This is outrageous......the Social Security to be only for Americans we paid into it not them.....perhaps you could forward our comments onto to the house and senate Thank you Michelle Brown Michigan
I can't believe what I am reading...WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH THEIR THINKING???? I also thought that our congressmen were working for us. I guess I was wrong..Social Security is something that you earned and paid into all your working years, and should not be used so freely to give to those who didn't earn it. LET MEXICO TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN.. We need to take care of our own and those that can't afford to pay for their medications and still have money for food. Since when and where does it say WE are suppose to save and support the rest of the world. THIS MAKES ME ANGRY.. Jack & June Pisone
This is one of the most depressing pieces of information I have ever heard if it is true. You may have just ruined my day.
I am a former employee of Social Security, and I am writing in regard to your web page article about Mexicans who may eventually be eligible to receive Social Security. I wish to make two comments: 1) Totalization is not new. This arrangement began in the 1980's. Under totalization, benefit amounts are prorated according to the number of credits the worker earned both under the U.S. Social Security System,and that of another country. The worker is only paid by the U.S. for the credits he earned here. The writer of this article would have learned this had he or she bothered to contact the Social Security Administration. Instead, he or she chose to state half-truths, based on his right-wing prejudices. 2) People who work illegally do not have their earnings reported to IRS. Accordingly, these earnings are not posted to their earnings records (if they have any). Therefore, Social Security cannot be paid on the basis of these earnings. In fact, those who work illegally may never be insured for Social Security. These facts are obvious, even to a person who never worked for Social Security. Apparently, they still weren't obvious to the writer of this article. John Herling, Mineola NY
Where did you get the information about this hoax? Thank you, Your reply would be greatly appeciated. P.S. I do agree that our Politicians in Washington many times take "insane" action, but the news printed in your article would a political "suicide" taking in consideration the vulnerability of the Social Security system. I considered myself an "up to date" person and I do not recall a Bill being circulated or started, and the fact the they are "building a structure" in Mexico to handle the influx of these unducumented workers...sound like a "new $3 bill". Cordially, John Rosati
This is a very misleading page. To find out the true story go to Snopes.com and Search on Social Security.
How could they possibly be thinking about giving away our Social Security to non-Americans, after we have worked sooooooo hard to put that money away for our Senior Years. How could they even think about such a thing. If they ever do try such a thing we Americans who have put the money in should file a class action suit in court against our government for giving our money away so we can get it back. Our politicans don't care they get enough money so they can live high off the hog for the rest of their lives. All there Health care and benefits are free. What do they care about us little pions without any money for our prescriptions, and food. Voter from Pennsylvania
We have had totalization agreements with almost every other country of the world, some for twenty five years. This is not a scary new thing. It just means that the U.S. pays a percentage of a workers benefits if he/she does not have enough quarters of coverage in the U.S. but DOES if quarters in another country are counted. As for an office in Mexico City, there are a lot of U.S. citizens who retire in Mexico, so maybe they need one. For those people who worked under someone else's social security number, they are paying in and usually don't and won't get anything out of it at all. If you want to be afraid of and angered about something, there are now many elderly immigrants from certain European countries who never paid into the system at all and yet are able to collect SSI. Does THAT bother you?
I can't beleive they are willing too sacrifice what we've work so hard for. I know our fore fathers came here as immigrants. Mine did from england in the year 1645. The difference is we stayed here. We didnt go back, we stayed here. This is our home an our country. I wish the polliticians would step back and take a long hard look at what they want too do. As I recalled we voted for these men and women too serve in our best interest. Not, in another country's best interest. Which would be happening if they receive social security benifits. It really astounds me that they would even consider this. We break our backs too help out our fellow men and women no matter what country they are from. And as you all know, most country's despies us. But when they need help, who do they turn too in a crisis? You got it, us thats who. And we do help without question, we are there for people from other lands that need our help. We open our hearts too anyone in need. I guess that makes us who we are. Proud too be Americans of the United States. All I'm asking is for our polliticians too take a moment and step back and think . Yes, think what if any good will this come of, for the united states citizens. Sincerly D. Shugart
What is our government thinking??????????????It's time they put a STOP to helping out these other countries and people who haven't even been born,raised and worked here in the US.Let their governments take care of their own people be it Mexico,Cuba or whereever. Those of our American people who have been born here and worked hard so we would have something when we got older should now be able to collect S S till we pass on.We should not have to fight for help when needed,besides they should pay for excellant medical care,medications that are now so outrages in price and give allowance to those who need help with their taxes without medeling into their financial status.Give us Americans for our tax money and our hard work.Not only for us seniors but help our young families starting out with children.It just isn't right to hand these people who come here for a ride on the gravey train from other countries all the freebies. Thanks for allowing me to give my comments.
What is our government thinking??????????????It's time they put a STOP to helping out these other countries and people who haven't even been born,raised and worked here in the US.Let their governments take care of their own people be it Mexico,Cuba or whereever. Those of our American people who have been born here and worked hard so we would have something when we got older should now be able to collect S S till we pass on.We should not have to fight for help when needed,besides they should pay for excellant medical care,medications that are now so outrages in price and give allowance to those who need help with their taxes without medeling into their financial status.Give us Americans help for our tax money and our hard work.Not only for us seniors but help our young families starting out with children.It just isn't right to hand these people who come here for a ride on the gravey train from other countries all the freebies,the green card and etc.. Thanks for allowing me to give my comments.THANKS FOR THE FREEDOM WE HAVE HERE IN AMERICA AND LEAVE THE OTHER COUNTRIES LEARN FROM US AND HELP THEIR OWN PEOPLE SO THEY WILL WANT TO STAY IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES.
THAT REALY SUCKS,I WORKED FOR 33 YEARS & IT STILL TOOK 26 MONTHS TO GET MY SS.GEEZ..
This is totally unfair. When is the United States going to wake up and 'take care of their own' and stop trying to govern the whole world. We fight their battles, we give them our food and now our Social Security when in reality we should be looking out for our own people in the U.S.A. These politicians don't work for us; they work for whomever or whatever they want to work for. They should be replaced by more responsible representatives. They should be thrown outta office! A.B.C. 1 June 2003.
This is totally unfair. When is the United States going to wake up and 'take care of their own' and stop trying to govern the whole world. We fight their battles and our men are dying and not theirs. We give them our food and now our Social Security when in reality we should be looking out for our own people in the U.S.A. These politicians don't work for us; they work for whomever or whatever they want to work for. They should be replaced by more responsible representatives. They should be thrown outta office! A.B.C. 1 June 2003.
Another Bush tactic to get the Spanish vote and throw money at a problem. why we vote republican I can never understand?
It isn't bad enough that already our dollar is less than what once was. Now they will be giving our hard earned Social Security to illegals. This truly makes me upset. It would have been so much better to have put 7.8% away into my own security over the many years I had to work and support my family. As a retired individual and living on a meager income as it is, I hate to be any part of trying to live on less because "less" is truly small enough now. Then those who will be retiring after me would be living on less than that. Save our borders and be more American is what I firmly believe.
What we get from SS depends on what we put into it over the many years we contributed. How can someone come into the US and get anything? Where are our leaders on this? They should only collect from SS too instead of their own program.
This is the greatest site I have seen since I started on the internet 10 years ago. Thanks for the site so that I can contact my Congressmen and Senators. I hope more people see this site and take advantage of it in the future. I plan to send this site to everyone I know and have them pass it on to others. Thanks again. Barbara E. Braley - email@example.com
Dear Sir/Ms: In my opinion, you've made it awkward for readers to use your system for contacting members of Congress. Your "remember me" option is not necessarily limited to this issue. Also, you appear to using the hard sell for hand delivery. How much faster can it be than e-mail? Or are you implying that e-mails are not del'd to the Congressperson? Or is there a $ profit involved? And why must you require phone numbers and addresses? I am 100% in support of H.R.489 but because of the above comments will e-mail my Congressperson directly. Yours truly, Arthur A. Oldoni
I DON'T LIKE IT AT ALL...I DON'T DRAW NEAR ENOUGH SSI TO LIVE ON..WHAT DID THE FORIGNERS DO FOR US? I WAS IN TWO NWARS AN STILL GET TREATED WORSE THAN THE MEXICANS..WE HAVE LOTS OF PEOPLE ON THE STREETS NEEDING THINGS..BUT OUR GOVERMENT WILL HELP OTHERS BEFORE THEY WILL HELP THE ONES HERE IN AMERICA THAT NEEDS HELP...SORRY I CAN'T SAY ANY MORE I GET TO ANGRY....RAY
WHAT IN THE WOLRD IS OUR GOVERNMENT GOING TO DO NEXT, TO WE, THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WHO HAVE WORKED VERY HARD FOR WHAT WE HAVE. I KNOW OF A WOMEN OVER 72 YEARS OF AGE WHO RIGHT NOW GETS LESS THAN $300.00 A MONTH TO LIVE ON FROM SOCIAL SECURITY...I KNOW OF A FARMER AGE 70 WHO GETS $432.00 A MONTH TO LIVE ON FROM HIS SOCIAL SECURITY AND I KNOW OF MANY MORE WHO ABSOLUTELY CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET ON WHAT THEY ARE GETTING FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.. THESE ELDERLY PEOPLE HAVE NO OTHER INCOME, BUT WILL HAVE TO WORK THE REST OF THERE LIVES AT EVERY ODD JOB THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY FIND, TRYING TO COME UP WITH THAT LITTLE EXTRA SO THAT THEY CAN JUST EAT AND HAVE A ROOF OVER THERE HEAD.. AND LETS GET REAL,,, WHO IS GOING TO HIRE SOMEONE OF THAT AGE?????????THESE PEOPLE CAN'T EVEN BUY THE MEDICATIONS THAT THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO BE ON AS THEY CAN'T AFFORD THEM. THEY HAVE NO MONEY. HOW SAD... AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE SOCIAL SECURITY TO THE MEXICANS WHO ILLEGALLY POP IN TO OUR COUNTRY, WHO PUSH DRUGS, CARRY WEAPONS AND ARE TOTALLY MESSING UP OUR PRECIOUS COUNTRY, STATE AND CITY. JUST HOW MANY KILLINGS HAVE WE HAD IN THIS TOWN ALONE SINCE THE HISPANIC'S HAVE COME IN AND TAKEN OVER. RIGHT IS RIGHT AND WRONG IS WRONG AND I FEEL THAT IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE ALL NEED TO PUT IN OUR 2 CENTS WORTH AND STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS AND BE COUNTED. MY HEART BLEEDS FOR WHAT I SEE HAPPENING RIGHT BEFORE MY VERY OWN EYES. LORD HEAR OUR PLEA.
Them S O B in Washington are going to far this time. I served this country in the Korean War and came home with a severe infection from drainage out of one ear. Will the Veterans Administration give me any compensation for it? HELL NO. I'm going to fight to the very end for what I believe I should have.
Many seniors on Social Security are having a difficult time making ends meet. The cost of living increases do not begin to help as everything else is going up, up, up. Congress always manages to give themselves substantial increases in pay as well as beefing up their pension plan, which is very generous. Now they want to take money from a Social Security program that is failing to "give" money to citizens of another country. Sorry, but I don't think this is fair to our people who have worked and paid into the system all of their lives. This is just too much to swallow.
You know, its about time that all groups of legislation, congress, senators and who-ever else is involved in always wanting to give money to countries outside of the United States put a stop to it. When are you going to realize that there are people in this country that could use this money that you are so free to hand out elsewhere. Its bad enough that people from other countries come over here, take our jobs, build there businesses, get more in aide than the people that have given there lives that live in this country. These people come over here, commit crimes, take there money or send there money back to there country, show no appreciation for this country, are rude and getting more rude, life like pigs and pull our neighbor-hoods down and get more damn Social Security and free medical care and prescriptions than the people that have lived in these United States all there lives. Why don't you all take a collection of all of your moneys and send it to other countries instead of what little I have. I have worked for over 40 yrs. in this country and get very damn little compared to those who come into this country from afar. We as Americans should go to these countries as they are being vacated to come over here because there is more room in these countries since these people are now living here and may be we can cash in on all these benefits that you so willing to send to all those othe countries. This kind of thing is a very sore subject for those of us who live in this country, its time the United States of America takes care of its own.
It is about time that the United States starts taking care of its own people. The Social Security should be used strictly for United States citizens that have worked all their time in the USA (except of course the military and their families who work in jobs that are for the USA when they are stationed in other countries. France really supports us don't they? That is a sarcastic statement. My husband was station in France and I finally got to go over there with him and everywhere you turned, there was a 'YANKEE, GO HOME" and we still haven't been paid back millions or billions or whatever they owe us and now, they want to give our money to people from Mexico who are illegal in our USA. That is just completely crazy. Our elderly can't even afford the medicines they need because there hasn't been anything to help them out and their small pensions barely keep food on the table and a roof over the head. Somebody needs to wake up and smell the real roses and take care of our own people before sending it to some other country. Yes, I support the War in Iraq as I supported the one in Vietnam and it wasn't just a conflict, it was a full scale war. My Husband served two years in that place and what kind of welcome did those returning from Vietnam get when they came home. My Brother and only Son who, by law at that time did not have to as the only son, but chose to do so anyway. And still you want to send all our Social Security to people that arn't even Legal Citizens of America. When they are over here illegally, and many of them are, they get medicade because they need money to live on. I have a daughter who is a single mother and can't afford isurance on herself. Finally Texas has adopted some insurance that covers the kids to a point. What is wrong with an IDIOT THAT WANTS TO GIVE TO SOMEONE THAT ISN'T EVEN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. The women from Mexico come over here illigally and have their babies here so they can draw money for that baby because when it is born in the USA it is considered and American Citizen even though it's mothere is illigal. They should not be Americans when they are born here, just because their mother gave birth to them in the US. I think it is time for some senators and representatives should get cuts in their salaries to pay for that money they want to send to MEXICO. Perhaps, the way we vote for those people should be changed, so that we really get the people in office that were voted on by the people and not their voting delegates. Then maybe we would have more honest hard working people in there running our government. I still don't understand a person that should have been impeached from the Presidency because of all the lies he told should get body guards to save his life when he cost our country millions of dollars because of lawsuits against him. That money could be put back in our Social Security Funds for only AMERICAN CITIZENS and not ones that entered illegally. Billie Huffman Willis, TX
Bless your souls for this idea and the many other opportunities to write our representative in our state. We don't allow television in our home, so you have allowed us to know a little more what America is STILL trying to do to our country, meaning the government. They seem to find more ways to take the PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING FOR THEIR LIVING, MONEY AWAY FROM THEM AND THEIR RETIREMENT. The other issues you have on your list are great also in helping us, especially in Hawaii reach the government. Pray for our state because it is so LIBERAL, being related to District Court 9 and their foulness. We are grateful we allow you to be emailed to us. God bless America and the PEOPLE WHO ARE FIGHTING TO KEEP MORALS AND VIRTUES ALIVE. WE THE PEOPLE. Mr. & Mrs. Gregg Nelson
Sure, just give it ALL away including the retirement, savings and s.s., of these government officials, and let's all move to Mexico.[yeah] I don't mind helping out, but this is the hight of stupid. LET'S MAKE SURE THE ONES WHO THOUGHT THIS UP DON'T GET BACK IN OFFICE, [if anything is left by then]
Giving our Social Security Benifits to illegal immagrants is outrageous !!!!! I worked hard all the years since I was 15 and was disabled at age 42.They said I barley made it to get any benifits! I get $450.00 per month - thank God my husband has good insurance- my daily meds are over $250.00 per month .Then I have my Dr visits that I had to stop from monthly to every 3-4 months -I couldn't qualify for SSI or any type of help with the health problems I have because my husband was working- BUT - one SS office worker told me if I divorced my husband I would qualify ! This land is being taken over by the "foreigners" - they own more of the USA than the Americans do.Cubans,Mexicans all can get help getting a business started and pay NO tax for 5 years-then they turn around and "sell" it to a member of their family and no taxes for another 5 years- and around it goes for 20-30 years of paying absolutely no business taxs ,Federal nor State Taxes .But God forbid if we try to deduct 1 questionable deductable- the IRS attaches everything we have until they get their money ! I have heard that the whites are RACISTS until I am sick of it. it is US,the hard working White race that is the Minority and discrimated against !And to think all these people come to "the good life" and want to be American citizens- but why is it that WE have to learn THEIR language- do you think their government would tell us if we went to live in Cuba,Haiti,or Mexico that all the "natives of that country had to learn our language so we could talk to them? NOOOO!@ I say KICK THEM BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRIES and let their ancestors, and their government take care of them !! SHAME on our government - we have starving children and elderly right here - but do you see 50Million coming to feed and have healthcare for them?WAKE UP CITIZENS of AMERICA - Stop the idiotic government from giving OUR hard earned tax money to the lazy illegals and other foreigners come and helping theirselves to money that they didn't help put in there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!