Okay, I'm not done venting just yet. I am an 18 year old college student who would be very much affected by the reinstatement of the draft. I keep hearing all you older people talk about how we need a draft because we need to show our youths "respect." You have everything bass ackwards if you ask me. Let's talk about respect. Bush was very respectful by LYING to us all right? He outright lied to us. No WMDs in Iraq...none whatsoever. On the other hand he refused to act upon briefing after briefing that told him , "Hey, Osama Bin Laden is looking to hit us with an attack." And what do you know?? 9/11 happens. And then what do u know....chartered flights for the Bin Laden family OUT of America. What is wrong with you people?? He doesn't care if we are over there getting killed everyday. I bet if it was him, or someone he loved, over there with a knife to his neck he wouldn't be saying "I will not cooperate with terrorists." He's a phony and a liar. And we don't need to support him just because we live here. Thats why we are a DEMOCRACY. Times have changed and you have to live with that. If you want a draft so bad then YOU go over there. SIGN UP. Come on...do it!!! I don't support war. I don't support murder in another (or our own) country just because two political leaders cant get along. Not supporting a war doesnt equate to someone being non-patriotic. That's an old and drawn out lie. You have been brainwashed by former presidents and we arent allowing it now. You are also supporting a man who sets double standards for himself. He is DELIBERATELY going against the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, the comprehensive test ban and the WORLD COURTS order not to prepare for nuclear war. We tried to stop Sadaam from owning WMDs, but we have more than any other nation out there!! Look at what we're doing here, seriously. We're in big trouble. And it is shown with the attitudes that alot of you are portraying on this message board. Call me un-patriotic. The sad thing is, I love this country as much as anyone else. I just refuse to kill others to show it.
We absolutely do not NEED a draft. There's no reason to force people who do not want to go to war into that situation. WHY did ppl vote for Bush....if he reinstates the draft I hope all of you who voted for him are happy! :-D
Since I was a small child, I remember my grandfathers and fathers fighting wars. They were enlisted or drafted. They were called upon by a counrty to help. They believed in God & Country, in that order. And they did it with less money and technology then we have today. Now that it is called for by upper powers that the draft be presented again, everyone wants to yell.."no"! We also are turning our backs on God in schools and public places. Whats next, downsizing churches? As a mother of an American Soldier, I have gotten a different view of our Armed Forces. My son enlisted a year ago. He is in South Korea today. Basicly, he is getting special training in a demanding field, A chance to further his education, he is clothed, fed and sheltered for very little out-of-pocket expense. He receives free medical, dental and optical. He can not be 'layed-off' or 'let go' from his job, and gets one paid vacation day per month every year. He travels to different countries, and he gets a pay check to boot. He has a contract to continue his job every 4 years. Pay raises are earned and awarded to indidviduals for self-achievment. This is better conditions then jobs offered in our state, as jobs were being lost and companies cutting back. I believe if any one of us was giving the opertunity to have these conditions on the job, we would highly consider it. And dying of a shooting in the USA is higher then in our military forces anywhere. So I guess I feel that starting the draft is fair. You are again being asked to help, with better work conditions then we in the USA have right now. I do not feel the educated should be exempt, as Schooling can be continued in the military. As for women drafted, I believe they should be offered enlistment only. This would be due to the raising of our children. Drafting should only take one parent of a family. But I also believe our goverment should be downsized. We have updated everything else in the last 100 years, why not the way our goverment is run? But if that every came up to vote on, you would bet there would be many recounts!
I AM FOR THE DRAFT RETURNING. AMERICA NEEDS TO INSTILL RESPECT IN TO DAYS YOUNG ADULTS..HAVING THE DRAFT BACK WILL ALSO SUPPLY MUCH NEEDED JOBS AS WELL AS EDUCATION FOR SO MANY MEN AND WOMEN .. THE COWARDS WHO WANT TO DODGE THE DRAFT OR PARENTS AND GRAND PARENTS WHO WOULD HELP THEM TO DO SO ARE NOT TRUE AMERICANS.. I AM SO SICK OF ALL THE GOODIE TWO SHOES AND PROTESTS. I AM A PROUD AMERICAN!!!!! I DONT HAVE TO LIKE MY PRESIDENT TO SUPPORT AMERICA.. WAKE UP PEOPLE.. SMELL THE COFFEE. WE ARE IN TROUBLE HERE ...... WE NEED OUR MILITARY... WE NEED THE PROTECTION THEY CAN PROVIDE US.. HOW MANY MORE AMERICANS NEED TO ME KILLED ON OUR SOIL BEFORE U WAKE UP ?? B R I N G... B A C K.. T H E ..D R A F T
I THINK WE SHOULD BRING BACK THE DRAFT . I WAS IN THE 65-TO-67 . AND I LEARN HOW GRATE THE USA IS.
I served my country in uniform for 28 years. My family served with me and accompanied me everywhere, with the exception of the two years I was in Vietnam. Of those 28 years, 17 were spent overseas with 15 being in Germany or the Netherlands. We witnessed the country of Germany evolve from a war-torn nation suffering from Naziism to a responsible, prosperous and "free" country. We saw first hand the results of communism imposed on East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, and other nations. We stood inside the West Berlin border in the 60's and watched a grandmother weep while trying to get the view of her grandchild held by its mother behind the window of the shell of a house located near the opposing border in East Berlin. It was obvious that the mantel of communism was depressing, non-productive and denied those under its yoke their basic rights to be "Free." This past summer, we had the opportunity to visit former East Germany and Poland. People were out enjoying life, most were productively employed, their homes were repaired and painted, children were playing in the parks, people greeted each other and smiled. In Poland, churches were full and not just on Sunday. Farmers were busy in their fields. What a difference freedom makes. So what does this have to do with the draft? Nothing. But what it does say is that serving our country in one way or another should be the obligation of every American. If every American could live abroad for at least one year, the attitude about wanting to serve our country in one capacity or another, would change. Freedom is not free. There is a price to be paid if we want our freedom to survive. One way to serve our country is the military. And if the military is not for you, then serve in some other capacity. We must quit taking our freedom for granted because if we do, we will lose it. Although there are those who will brand this comment as paranoia, there are forces out there that are trying to destroy our way of life here in America. If we think otherwise, we are naive. As exhibited through the attack on our country on 9/11, we cannot compacently sit and watch. We must stand up for freedom and human rights. And that action is going on currently in Afghanistan, Iraq, S. Korea and in the many other areas our armed forces, State Department, aid groups and charities are serving at great risk around the world. One thing I learned as a soldier, if you do not take the fight to the enemy, he will bring it to you. Would we rather do the fighting here in America or there? I don't know about you, but I would prefer fighting the enemy on his own soil. To do that, we need soldiers. The source of those soldiers can be either through volunteer force or the draft. As long as we have sufficent volunteers, a draft will not be needed. But let's face it, without those volunteers, we will have to reimpose the draft at some point and the mechanism to do so should be in place now.
My only son is 16, I have a feeling he is thinking about the militery after High School. I have no problem with that. His grandfather,grand uncles,uncles and father were all in service. Most of them were in one war or another(WWII,Korea,&Nam) I would be proud to have a son in service of our country,but at the same time, I don't understandf why they are pushing for a new draft. If it is his choice fine-----if he is unecessarily forced into it that is another story. Either way I will justhope for his safe return from all places. I also hope those who are out there (wherever there is right now) will return home safe and in one piece. May the powers that be watch over you all. Nancy
We should never have done away with the draft. Our young people need a taste of discipline and should learn that Freedom is not free. Thank GOD for those brave young men who do volunteer to defend our freedom. By the way, I believe it was the Democrats who introduced the draft bill. Not the President.
The invasion of Iraq has little to do with WMD or terrorism. The decision to depose Sadam was one of financial interest. Sadam decided to mess with the United States in the most effective way. He changed his oil trading base from the American dollar to the Eurodollar. He was incouraging the rest of the OPEC nations to do the same. The U.S. sent forth the message, "change the status quo and we will invade your country" The U.S. began hostile talk with North Korea becasue they did the same thing with the Eurodollar in 2003. It is time for the people to wake up!! This has nothing to do with God, honor, patriotisim, terrorism, or defensive action of WMD. This has to do with defending our finacial structure by crushing other's financial structure becasue they don't agree with our way of doing things. It is time to wake up and stop being blind ingnorant sheep hiding behind a church or a political party. Make a decision for yourself, don't let FOX or CNN or anyone else do it for you.
I for one absolutely belive and support the draft. I have a long standing line of family members in the military including 1 son, 1 daughter, 1 brother in law who has made the military his life and 1 sister in law who will have been in 10 yrs. This country was founded on everyone fighting for the right to be free. Now it seems no one wants to volunteer to help keep it that way. They figure let someone else do it. Or as one lady told my friend, I didn't raise my son to die. Well I didn't raise any of my kids to die either but you don't have to join the military to die. It happens on the streets every day. Being in the military is not only a privilage but an honor. My son along with every other person who is fighting for this country is out to protect all those who refuse to help or feel it's not their place, or whatever lame excuse they come up with or just simply doesn't care and that's a shame. I also believe once the draft if ever it comes to pass, anyone who dodges it and leaves the country, dare never to return. Once you step across that border, you have given up any and all rights as a US citizen.
There will be NO draft. This underhanded lie was concocted by Congressman Charlie Rangel, a DEMOCRAT, and Senator Hollingsworth, a DEMOCRAT. One submitted a bill in the House and the other in the Senate in January 2004 with the SOLE purpose of hoping the voters would believe that President Bush was responsible. That is the rumor and accusation they viciously spread. The president CANNOT DECLARE A DRAFT. It must be passed in our legislative branch - by the House and the Senate. When will more people, democrats, figure out that their party has never had your best interests at heart. Big government is how they control the people. Government was written to do only a few things as outlined by the Founding Father's. Please read the Constitution.
its funny i recently read a great book called prison to praise it was all about war during the draft it brought back to me the fact that God is in control of our lives completly all we have to do is trust as a christian this drafting thing is sad but I do find huge peace in the love of jesus trusting that as all of history proves His love for us is complete meaning that He chooses what laws will be and what laws wont and the olny thing i have to do is believe that no mattere what they are he chooses them for my benifit i do hope this helps to bring some of you peace your friend in Christ
BELATEDLY HELLO, I WAS SENT THIS E-MAIL IN JULY AND ONLY NOW AM I OPENING IT UP DUE TO RECENTLY REACTIVING INTERNET SERVICE. I THOUGHT YOUR DRAFT MESSAGE VERY PROVOCATIVE WITH THE IMPENDING ELECTION AND DEBATES NOW UNDERWAY. I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF SERVING 2 MASTERS, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THE BIBLE DOES IN SUPPORT GIVING THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT ITS DUE ALLEGENCE AND OBEDIENCE. IT JUST SEEMS THAT WAR IS SO ANTI SPIRITUAL, AND I AM GO GLAD I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANYONE OF DRAFT AGE, BUT STILL FEEL VERY BAD FOR THE MANY YOUNG PEOPLE THAT HAVE THIS HANGING OVER THEIR HEADS. BACK IN JULY IT WASN'T SO OBVIOUS THAT THE DRAFT WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED. AT LEAST KERRY HAS BEEN HONEST ABOUT IT WHILE BUSH IS STILL CONVENIENTLY PUTTING A COVER ON IT, ALTHOUGH MORE AND MORE AMERICANS ARE SEEING THROUGH THE RIDICULOUSNESS OF KEEPING THE SAME PEOPLE WHO HAVE VOLUNTEERED IN MILITARY SERVICE FOR AN INDEFINATE PERIOD. TIME SEEMS TO INTENSIFY ALL ASPECTS OF WAR. THERE DOESN'T SEEM A WAY OUT NOW FOR CONSCIENCENOUS OBJECTORS AS THE VIETNAM ERA. ALTHOUGH THE WAR APPEARED BLEAK IN THOSE DAYS AS TO WHEN TROOPS WOULD FINALLY BE PULLED OUT, IT IS SO MUCH MORE SO NOW. I AM LEFT WITH A FEELING OF HOPELESSNESS FOR NOT ONLY THE MILITARY FIGHTING IN THE EAST, BUT FOR THE USUAL DOMESTIC CONCERNS. IT SEEMS FIRST PRIORITY IS TO TAKE CARE OF WHAT IS AT HOME BEFORE BEING INVOLVED IN CHAOS OUTSIDE OUR BORDERS. I KNOW IT NEVER GETS ENOUGH ATTENTION DURING PEACE TIME, AND WILL GET LESS AND LESS, THUS CREATING INTERNAL CHAOS. SUPPORTERS OF WAR POINT OUT TO THE JUSTICE OUR INVOLVEMENT WAS IN WW I AND ESPECIALLY WW II, BUT EVER SINCE, I THING THE CONS HAVE FAR OUTWEIGHED THE PROS. ELECTING EITHER REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATE IS NOT REALLY VERY DIFFERENT. I AM NOT BI-PARTISAN; I AM NON-PARTISAN. MY CONCERN IS THAT PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR BELIEFS TO MY OWN AND ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE IN THE EAST, ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A CHOICE AS TO WHAT KIND OF DUTY THEY WILL BE PERFORMING DURING THE WAR. HOW DISGUSTING IT WOULD BE TO BE A PART OF KILLING WHEN A PERSON IS SO AGAINST IT. WELL THAT IS MAINLY MY OPINION. THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS INFORMATION OUT OF THE WEB. NH
Ah the little punk from Iowa. Kinda makes you proud you served your country doesn't it? Well, like it or not, that's what we fought for through the years. They didn't say we had to like it, just do it.
Mr. Stutz is a liar. There is no move to reinstate the draft and he knows it. Two democrats have entered bills in an effort to make voters believe that Mr. Bush has plans to reinstate the draft. It simply is not true. This is an election year ploy and from what I've read in the comments, it seems to be working pretty well. One of the democrats, Charles Rangel, has even admitted the he and his fellow democrat are doing this to "stir things up".
I am a young person who would be effected by the draft. I would like you to hear my voice. I was born into this country. Some say it is a gift. While other say it is a curse. I feel it is neither. I feel it is something that was done for me. I don't believe in fair-weather patriotism. I do believe in doing what is right, for myself and others. I was not rooting for America to go to war before 9/11, and I am still against going to war. This is not my war. These are my personal beliefs. Judge if you like. I am simply you an out look on most of the youth that would be effected by such an ordeal. I have hopes, I have dreams. They do not consist of serving, and they do not consist of war. Neither do close loved ones that would be effected as well. Most of whom I know don't want this war. Why should we be forced to fight it? Let those who believe in it go. Let those who feel it is right. I don't want my life shattered by such a thing. I would do anything and everything I could to avoid such a thing. I know most would not agree with me. I know one comment I would here, "Don't like it, move to Canada!" Well, if I could I would. That is if I had to choose between that or war. I am not here to bash patriotism. I just thought you would like to know how a vast amount of my generation feels. I don't expect a warm reply. I thought you would just like to here how an average 18 year old feels about a draft. N. G. Iowa, 18
For the U.S. Army to have the highest caliber of people in it, those who actually want to be in the Army are the people who will do the best job. If people are forced to serve by being drafted, they will resent it and will not feel the obligation to perform to their potential. Wouldn't the U. S. be better off if the professional people doing the job now continued to do so? Angie Newton
I'm really against reinstating the draft. Forcing young people to give up their future plans and very possibly their lives, is unethical, in my opinion. Even if I didn't have grandchildren that it would affect immediately, I would still be against it.
Draft freightens me. I had four brothers in the service, two during WW11 and two during the Korean conflict. Two became alcoholics, one a lawyer, another made his way through several mental instutions, also my deceased husband served during the Korean conflict. All volunteered. War leaves scars, physical and mental, both are hideous. And now, my grandsons, are becoming eligible. If we take our children who go on to college out of college, is that right? One of my neighbors sons volunteered for service, he always wanted to be a Marine. There are those who join the military because they want to, others go on in other directions. Leavening the military a voluntary choice, sounds to me a wise decision. I'm a grandmother,love my grandchildren, and hope that they are allowed to make their own life choices.
Our leaders have a responsibility to those who are expected to fight and maybe die or be maimed for life to only go to war when it is justified. No other options can be left on the table, and the cause must be 100% valid. And Congress must actually DECLARE war, not be a bunch of whimps and just pass on the authority to the president. They have to do their job. Since these conditions don't exist and haven't existed for a long time, I have no desire to see my son used as a rich man's pawn. I guess the reason all the loopholes such as Canada, educational deferments, etc. have all been plugged so well is because the present administration knows all about them from early on in their careers. If you don't believe me, look it up.
I think that the draft should be reinstated, but with exceptions, for example if your spouse is already in the military then the spouse that is out of the military should not be drafted. I think it should be reinstated, due to all these highschoolers that are getting out and not doing nothing with theyre life. I am currently serving my country but i think some exceptions should be in effect. FS3 KYLE L. PHILLIPS U.S. COAST GUARD CUTTER MORGENTHAU
I think that the draft should be reinstated, but with exceptions, for example if your spouse is already in the military then the spouse that is out of the military should not be drafted. I think it should be reinstated, due to all these highschoolers that are getting out and not doing nothing with theyre life. I am currently serving my country but i think some exceptions should be in effect. FS3 KYLE L. PHILLIPS
the draft should be reinstated ,and all service men should get a raise to be able to support their families..as it is now they can barely survive and have to have commodities to live..the congress of the us needs to wake up,and get something done,,
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AGAIN ANOTHER TOPIC I DISAGREE TOTALLY WITH, HOW ABOUT MR. PRESIDENT SENDING HIS DAUGHTERS TO SERVE, OR ALL THE OTHER SENATOR'S AND ANY ONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOVERNEMNT WHO WANTS TO IMPOSE THE DRAFE. I DO NOT THINK ANY SON OR DAUGHTER SHOULD BE KILLED OVER A SNSELESS WAR LIKE WE ARE IN NOW JUST BECAUSE BUSH BELEIVES HE NEEDS MORE OIL FOR MR. CHENEY. WE MUST REMOVE BUSH FROM OFFICE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER HE STOLE THE LAST ELECTION AND DON'T SAY HE DIDN'T BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE PEOPLE DID NOT VOTE HIM IN BUT OF COURSE HE HAS BIG BUCKS BEHIND HIM SO IF YOU HAVE MONEY, WE ALL KNOW YOU WON'T FIGHT UNLESS IT'S BEHIND A DESK. I LOVE MY COUNTRY BUT THE DRAFT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARY IF WE TOOK CARE OF OUR MILITARY AND NOT SEND THEM TO DIE IN A USELESS AND A NO-WIN WAR. FLORIDA GIRL WHO BACK'S KERRY MARIE
I do not feel that we need the draft and I also think that we need to bring our troops home from Iraq. The Iraq people do not want us over there and we are getting our troops killed.
I think that the draft should be reinstated, maybe the drunks and dopeheads and pushers could be taught to be something besides bums and freeloaders. Hopefuly would get them off the streets and leave decent, working people alone.
I read through several of the posted comments and it accured to me that we are all missing it. We should all join together and prayer to Our GOD to have his hand in this. I know in my heart that if we would all stop making decisions and speaking our opionins before asking GOD for help we would all know what is best and right and the way to handle it. If God sends our young men to war then we must have faith that he will be with them and if he keeps them here we must know that there is a reason, God knows all. Stop being so childish and open your eyes then you will truly know what our country should do.
I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE SAYING THIS WHOLE WAR IS PRESIDENT BUSHS FAULT. THE ONES WHO THINK THAT VOTING HIM OUT AND GETTING SOMEONE IN THERE THAT WILL NOT GO TO WAR IS THE ANSWER HAS A RUDE AWAKING COMING. IF NOTHING IS DONE, THEY WILL NOT GO AWAY! DID YOU NOT GO TO SCHOOL? THEY TAUGHT YOU THINGS, READING, WRITING, MATH,ECT.BUT IT ALSO TAUGHT YOU ABOUT PEOPLE. DID THE PEOPLE WHO PICKED ON YOU GO AWAY BECAUSE YOU TOLD THEM TO? DID THEY GO AWAY AFTER YOU TOLD YOUR MOM AND DAD? HOW ABOUT WHEN YOU TOLD THE TEACHER? THEY NEVER STOPED TILL YOU TOOK A STAND, AND TAUGHT THEM YOU WHERE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH IT! IF YOUR FRIENDS HELPED YOU, THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES WHERE THAT YOUR OUT COME WAS TO BE SUCCESSFUL, AND THAT YOU WHERE NOT GOING TO BE PICKED ON, OR TARGETED. SAME THING IN THE WORLD, JUST ON A LARGER SCALE. NO ONE WANTS THERE CHILDREN OR FAMILY TO HAVE TO GO TO WAR. IF THEY DO HAVE TO GO, DO YOU WANT THEM GIVEN TRAINING, OR TOLD, YOU ARE GOING, HERE IS THIS AND THAT, DO THE BEST YOU CAN. A DRAFT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY ARE GOING TO WAR, IT IS TO TRAIN THEM SO THAT THEY ARE READY IN CAUSE OF WAR.
I have always thaught that eighteen year olds should do two years of service of some sort. The Military doesn't need a draft to get the people they need. Our young people don't seem to realize THAT FREEDOM ISN'T FREE. I am a Christian and don't like war and I am also a Military Retiree and have a son who is a Military Retiree and have three grandchildren in Iraq (2 boys 1 girl) WAYNE
no one would ever like to see their children go to war; however whatis the option/ when i was drafted for the korean war i wasn't very happy about it but if i didn't go, who would? as americans we need to defend our country when we are called upon. we might not agree with the reason for the war, but i think we have an obligation to serve.
I am a sister of a young man who would be the age to be drafted. I feel it would be unfair to send untrained babies to war. I believe if we have a draft it should allow ample time for appropriate training. Also I believe it should be stated that families with only one son and one daughter to be the last to be drafted.
I am not sure if I am for the draft to be reinstated or not. I believe we must consider the consequences it might have on this country should we send too many of our men to war. Although women and men have the same rights it is important to remember that the majority of jobs like construction, refrigeration, etc. are filled by men that would be in the age rage to be drafted. Also we must remember those single mothers out there who have only one son. If their only son is drafted what are they supposed to do?
I don't know if we need the draft or not. I don't know what we need to beat terroism I don't know what's the best for our country. That's why we elect people who do know. i'm afraid all this would be blamed on Pres. Bush & I don't think he's at fault. He's not the only one who runs the government. I think he's a good christian man & will do the best he can for our great country. We are one nation under God & IN GOD WE TRUST! sph.
No Draft. We Need to get out and bring our men & weman Home They Don;t Want our Help
We now have the finest armed forces since Revolutionary days - and this is due to these soldiers being well-trained men of quality who signed up to do their duty for their country. During the days of the draft, there were many who merely were there because they had been forced into it; therefore were not of quality and did not give their best efforts. Granted many would wait to be called by the draft then decide to join whichever part of the armed forces interested them then did give their best. But these have been joining the armed forces today - and we have a quality armed forces to be proud and they can be proud of the job they've been doing. With all the recent technological advances, fewer actual men are needed therefore a draft is unnecessary and would merely destroy the morale of the wonderful armed forces we have now.
To say NO DRAFT is to say NO FREEDOM! Yes, I am for universal military training. BUT---We MUST return the veteran's rights that the draft dodger Slick Willie took away from the veterans. D.J. Definitely a HAWK
My husband was drafted in WWII. The US was not in the least prepared for that war. The draft was started on a 1-year of service basis. Of course, after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the air base there, the draft had to continue. I did not approve and still do not approve of women on the battle field. Many disagree with me, but in WWII the filled positions to release men to go to battle. This terrorist war is totally different, but it is war. When buildings are attacked, ships attacked and many killed, we as a country must be prepared. If the draft is the only way, then so be it! Evelyn Force
Have not read the congressional bills, that are being suggested but my guess is that it is an effort to be prepared should for some reason an increased need arrive. Hopefully, that will not happen but should it, a better solution which has been suggested many times would be two years of universal service, exempting no-one but give each an opportunity to serve their country however they would chose. And give special consideration in pay and benefits to those who are willing to but their life on the line for the rest of us. Bill from Maryland
I HAD 4 BROTHERS IN THE ARMED FORCES AT THE SAME TIME, VIETNAM GOT ONE OF THEM IN THAT EVIL WAR. MY DAD WAS IN THE NAVY, MY HUSBAND WAS IN THE ARMY. I HAVE A GRANDSON IN COLLEGE THAT I LOVE DEARLY AND WOULD HATE TO SEE HIM HAVE TO GO TO A WAR THAT GEORGE BUSH STARTED. OUR PRESIDENT DOESN'T SEEM TO CARE HOW MANY OF OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN ARE COMING HOME IN BODY BAGS. I CARE AND I CRY FOR OUR NATION FOR THE SHAPE IT'S IN I AM 66 YRS OLD AND THIS IS THE MOST FRIGHTENING TIME I'VE SEEN IN MY LIFE TIME. I AM AGAINST THE DRAFT. AND AGAINST THIS NEEDLESS WAR. OLD MEN MAKE WAR AND YOUNG MEN GET KILLED.....A CONCERNED GRANDMOTHER
I am a novice at using the computer and find it very troubling to see all the inaccurate information being sent into many households. I love your web site but believe you crossed over into a political question which may or may not be true, relative to a possible military draft in the spring of 2005 "after the election". I believe common sense tells us that a draft may be necessary if the "war on terror" continues for an extended time, which is highly likely in view of the fact that Islamic fanatics believe the only good christians or jews are "dead ones". I ask you, are we to "fear the draft" as much as we fear attacks upon this nation and its people as well as all free people of the world for years to come? I find it deplorable that you would be part of an effort that infers that some "secret" steps are being taken by our Goverment to deliberately put off a decision to re-instate the draft "after the election" I saw this subject in Email I received and checked it out on Google which gives a different insight then you have in your position. I believe to conjecture in a negative way on a subject that may or may not come to pass is not appropriate in a time of war when our President needs to be girded up not torn down.
From Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret), & Vietnam vet: Hi everyone...More of my views...I was really surprised to see on the CBS evening news an officer, a professional..and 68 years old..yes, - sixty-eight - years old.going back in the army...being trained and will serve in Iraq...Man o man...All the young people, hope you saw it...a guy that is pusing 70 will be wearing a helmet and pair of combat boots and will be going to war....Age is not always a factor..it is "What kind of physical shape one s in"..and how the old brain is working...plus, "prior experience" within the military...I give this fellow a "Big Salute"....his son was 39 years old...Pop is going to war....Hoo Ah...I say, if he can...why not a young 18 to 26 year old? Also, there's many prior service and retired people that would serve if called again...I am 57 and I could..I am sure...Ofcourse, the retired people can't ever be promoted to their next higher grade, even in wartime...Yes, one of those wonderful members of congress did that...But, retired soldiers would still go back if called...for it is not the money or promotions...it is their understanding of "Freedom" & "Love of their country" that drive's their wagon...and mine...I am in favor of a draft as I have stated on this forum earlier...Those drafted...we need atleast two (2) years of service...remember, it takes normally 4 months of initial & advanced training, 2 months for basic...and another 2 months of advanced training...so, one (1) year service is "not" enough...I wish we were not in this fix...but, we are...Our way of life may later be in peril...we need a strong force, with numbers that can sustain the many missions around the world and perhaps in the near future right here in the USA....Job's, schools, work, family...making money...having a good ole time...it will no longer matter if we are dead...we must look at what could happen to our own country...plan ahead.."Now"..the freedom we have had all these years could later be gone....Our enemy hope's that we will die slow and within....one way for this is our military gets so weak and those that are stretched so thin will no longer be willing to serve....Being in combat for a year..a year and a half..back home..then back again for 6 more months...Now, how would you all feel about that? We must enhance our way of life, more security for our country...the Armed Forces have made us all what we are today...for without them...we would not be able to be the Americans we are....Take a hard look at other ountrie's..how they live...Thank you all, active and guard & reserve forces for your past dedication to yor country...and current service...and to those now serving to fight against terrorism....in 2 war zones, you are all # 1...the best of the best.....Chuck Kenney in North Carolina. e-mail: email@example.com
I support the draft. If you love your country, be prepared to have to fight for your freedom. Freedom is never free, someone always has to pay the price. Welfare is never free, we, the working ones, pay to support the ones who get it.
i think that the draft would be an exellent idea. i am 21 years old and i am an army reservist...i have spent time overseas and have gladly served my country...i think that every one should at least do 2 years in the military it will definitely straighten one up and prepare them for life's journey...granted yes it would be someones child or grandchild, but what about the ones that volunteer? they have family too. so, this idea that the draft is a bad thing is simply absurd. bill kaetzel
My father was in the draft during WW2 and served in the Navy, my brother spent 2 years in the army and I spent 6 years in the Air Force so bring on the draft...I am ready.
I believe in the people that are out there fighting and supporting our country now...but that was their choice to sign up to do that. I myself have a boyfriend whos is overseas fighting for our country. But, we should not reinstate the draft. Especially with the new changes that they have implemented. If they put that into effect many people will be sending all of their children to war. It is bad enough to send one, but I have a friend that would be sending 3 children. Who is the government to decide who goes or not. Don't we have overpopulation in our prisons??? Send them over their to fight. And if the prisoners get out of line shoot them too. But why take all the children from one family and fight? Is the government watching to many movies? Trying to build the biggest army the world has ever seen. I think it is time to turn off "Lord of the Rings" and see what this decision would really do to us!!!!! Christy and Alice in Illnios
This is suposed to be the land of the free! If we renstate the draft how can we say we are free?Each person should be allowed to make the dicission to inlist if they choose to. No one should be forced to.besides,what gives a person the right to decide who goes and who stays, just because they are a certain age does not mean that they can mentaly or fiscally indure combat.A person who willingly inlist fully understanding what this dicission means is more likely to not only to deal with the insanities of war better, but is also more likely to be an asset in this war. NO!!!!We should not renstate the draft.In forcing our young people to fight,we are lower ourselves to the same level as the many people ,and ideals that we fight against. N.W./NEW ORLEANS
this person must be drunk YOUR SONG STINKS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN SITE. I WILL BE CANCELING YOUR SERVICE IMMEDIATELY. THE DRAFT ??? BRING IT ON. MAKE SOME MEN/WOMEN OUT OF THOSE SISSY COUCH POTATO BOYS AND GIRLS.
YOUR SONG STINKS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN SITE. I WILL BE CANCELING YOUR SERVICE IMMEDIATELY. THE DRAFT ??? BRING IT ON. MAKE SOME MEN/WOMEN OUT OF THOSE SISSY COUCH POTATO BOYS AND GIRLS. ARE YOU DRUNK?
YOUR SONG STINKS, I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN SITE. I WILL BE CANCELING YOUR SERVICE IMMEDIATELY. THE DRAFT ??? BRING IT ON. MAKE SOME MEN/WOMEN OUT OF THOSE SISSY COUCH POTATO BOYS AND GIRLS.
NO, I DON'T FEEL THAT DRAFT SHOULD BE REINSTATED...THOSE WHO WANT TO JOIN THE SERVICE DO AND I COMMEND THEM...OTHERS ARE BUSY WITH COLLEGE AND JOBS AND WOULD RATHER REMAIN THERE...THERE SEEMS TO BE ENOUGH PEOPLE NOWADAYS WHO ARE JOINING ON THEIR OWN TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY...
They need to reinstate the draft to get some of these thugs off the street and improves a persons determination to excel in life. I am a ex marine and think that going to the core was the most eye opening experince to the world one could see. Payne
I was in the US Army and went to Vietnam when I was 18. I pulled my time over there and didnt like it, but it was my dutyI for my country which I love. I feel that if our country needs more men, then the draft should be restarted. Let everyone help support the freedom that they enjoy
I believe we need to send all our people that are in prison and on death row,and send them over to fight. Our tax dollars feed and keep these criminals safe behind bars. It is time for them to pay their dues. We have lost to many young soldiers. It really breaks my heart to see the names and the faces of these young ones. Yet our prisons are full of people who think they are the badest, and they are. I say send them!!
ALL SHOULD SERVE THERE COUNTRY, BETWEEN AGE18 TO 24 YRS. FOR 1 YR. WE ALL LIKE OUR FREEDOM. MY TWO BROTHER AND I SERVE OUR COUNTRY! TIME 1 FOR 2 YRS ,6 YRS. & 8 YRS.YES OUR GOVT. SHOULD TAKE CARE OFALL WHO SERVE.
ALL SHOULD SERVE THERE COUNTRY, BETWEEN AGE18 TO 24 YRS. FOR 1 YR. WE ALL LIKE OUR FREEDOM. MY TWO BROTHER AND I SERVE OUR COUNTRY! TIME 1 FOR 2 YRS ,6 YRS. & 8 YRS.YES OUR GOVT. SHOULD TAKE CARE OFALL WHO SERVE.
From Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret): Back again...An e-mail caught my eye here...My view on "Tech" and all the great things we have...While this is great..it does "Not" take the place of our body and brain...It takes "People" to make descisions and to fight a war...The computer's have a place and can help...it takes people to ru them, program them...Look, a machine will not run a mission..run a convoy, or do a patrol...it will not stop a person from running...or trying to kill...it takes people to do those things...If we wanted to drop a few bombs, or fire a missle here and there...the computer must be programed and then a order to fire... I say again..wish there was no wars, no killing of anyone...But, there's people that want to kill us..they do not want peace or freedom. We must be strong in numbers to maintain our way of life...when another bad thing happens inside the USA...even more worse than on Sept 11...we will need everything we have to save our country....acting then, after it happens...like, "What are we going to do"? Too Late...We must look ahead...NOW....It is a duty of every American to be willing to serve our country far as I'm concrned...All that are fit and are of sound mind. Freedom is not always Free...Well, that's a few more of my views, what do you think? Chuck Kenney in N.C. USA.
You are impossibly immature. Grow up and smell the coffee. If we, including you & your kids aren't willing to protect our land, then we'll all be under the evil one's oppression and be lucky if we're not gassed and put in mass graves or drug through the streets. If you can't be an adult and discuss this without all the insults, you need to find something else to do...
I am a 30year retired Navy person- With what the news media is today,I am lucky to be able to get somewhat unbiased reporting from FOX and editorials from the Net such as Charles Krauthammer, William Safire etc. With all due respect to our past heros that were drafted in the past, including my father,we donot need a draft with our high tech Military today. It seems that your site has a Hillary/Ted slant. Bill McGregor
THE PERSON WHO WROTE THE FOLLOWING: First of all Mr.Stutz,you were able to write your letter because of THE DRAFT AND,OR THE SOLDIERS,who have enlisted freely to protect this country.Do you not know the HISTORY of this great Nation.? The background that was used for your letter is a very bad representation,as to the way you appear to feel.Wonder how many of those boots would not be empty if they had gone to Canada.!!!! Apparently they felt different than you.And to Canada,it is about time they wised up.!!! I just came from a Family Support Group,for troops that are being shipped to Iraq in the near future.My Grandaughter is one of them.That is what you need to do ,sit in a room full of American Troops,let them tell "you" how they feel about what you think.!!! Did you know they support their President fully and they are the ones that are going to be there.It made me want to cry when I saw the background that was used for your "letter that you can so "freely" write and voice your disrespect for your country."!!! It also makes me want to cry when I hear my Grandaughter talk about how proud she is to serve her country.!!!!She will be one of thousands.In what country did 9-11 happened? You Forget? Go to some other country to live and then maybe you'll be thankful for the freedom of THE U.S.A.GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY,THE TROOPS,AND OUR PRESIDENT.Sincerely,G.Windham,Ms. 10-16-04 MUST BE THE SAME PERSON WHO WROTE THIS: Do you think we are so stupid we don't know that YOU wrote all those replies to "Stop whining?" Your ignorance is showing. Freedom was never free. Someone had to pay the price for our freedom. And I, for one, appreciate that. I would go in a heartbeat if I could. There are some things worth fighting for and my country is one of those thing, but you wouldn't know that because you're a TAKER. It's too bad that you don't know enough to know that someone always has to pay for freedom... When you can't think of anything decent to say, you resort to bowel movements because that is your mentality. I hope you remember this conversation when you grow up. AND THIS: Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining." GET A LIFE
The old saw about sending our representatives sons and daughters to war is really starting to get lame. Please try and be original.
I have a good idea. How about sending all of our representatives, senators and other lawmakers who want our sons and daughters to fight, right there on the front lines along with their young children? Maybe if they saw what happens when they are in the line of fire--they would not be so eager to force my grandchildren into war.
I think e-mails are great but maybe in this case not too effective. This information should be highly advertised. I too was in military service woman during WW11--and was promised such wonderful things as "join the Alaskian Division of the Army Air Force and go to Alaska. Within 2 years you can file on homestead land in the Matanuska Valley, and live in that beautiful land where anything can be raised." No promise like that was honored. Well promises given to young people to get them to go into the armed forces, are usually lies----just as this bill "to protect our country is a lie". I think our youngsters should have "freedom of choice" and hope that they believe in themselves enough to know that "this US is our land", we do not need to be in another land, and we do not need to "protect" another land. Close our immagration gates firmly and inforce the "keep out" signs. As a matter of fact if the "come one, come all, we will grant you freedom, feed you, put you on welfare rolls, etc were stopped, more of our own people would be free, not enslaved by present laws and we would have more of our own land and more jobs.
First of all Mr.Stutz,you were able to write your letter because of THE DRAFT AND,OR THE SOLDIERS,who have enlisted freely to protect this country.Do you not know the HISTORY of this great Nation.? The background that was used for your letter is a very bad representation,as to the way you appear to feel.Wonder how many of those boots would not be empty if they had gone to Canada.!!!! Apparently they felt different than you.And to Canada,it is about time they wised up.!!! I just came from a Family Support Group,for troops that are being shipped to Iraq in the near future.My Grandaughter is one of them.That is what you need to do ,sit in a room full of American Troops,let them tell "you" how they feel about what you think.!!! Did you know they support their President fully and they are the ones that are going to be there.It made me want to cry when I saw the background that was used for your "letter that you can so "freely" write and voice your disrespect for your country."!!! It also makes me want to cry when I hear my Grandaughter talk about how proud she is to serve her country.!!!!She will be one of thousands.In what country did 9-11 happened? You Forget? Go to some other country to live and then maybe you'll be thankful for the freedom of THE U.S.A.GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY,THE TROOPS,AND OUR PRESIDENT.Sincerely,G.Windham,Ms. 10-16-04
First of all Mr.Sutz ,you were able to write your letter because of
The draft is needed to build up our defenses and to train young men and women to be prepared for war. It's far better to draft and prepare them to go to war than get in an emergency situation and have to make untrained people serve. Being in the Military brings out the best from our young people and teaches self reliance, which is lacking in the younger generation that are out there. Our country needs a good dose of pride in our country and willingness to fight if we have to, to keep those evil ones who want to kill all Americans away from our land. If we do not fight over there, they will bring the war here. They've already struck us on our land. What makes you think they will just go away if we pull out of Iraq? We can't afford to stick our heads in the sand and hope they will leave us alone.
From Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret), and Vietnam veteran: More of my thought's...what do you think? Yes, it seems most here posting understand our country, our way of life...Hoo-ray for you all.and a BIG Salute...I wish that we did not need an army...that peace in the world was 100%...no fighting..no kiling...There's people out there now that "Hate" Americans...especially the poltics...I understand this...It takes a strong leader..as well as an informed President...looking after all of us as well as our military...At one time I tried to accept the Republican party...All they wanted from me was a "Donation"...They, (at state level), would not answer any of my concerns about the "Broken Promise" made to our Korean and Vietnam vets...Like "Free Health Care" after retiring...and...many other issues...But...the Democratic party is also guilty of not fully suppoting ur Veterans...They want to ship us to the VA hospital, knowing it is full to capacity, and one waits 2 months just to see an eye doctor...you Vet's know what I mean...We can't even use a "Military Hospital"...only active duty personnel...while members of congress and senate have a "Super" health care program...and "can use" the Army or Naval hospitals...Now, isn't that just great for them? So, who have we got? YOU...you and me... having to talk, call, e-mail, and keep doing it until someone finally hears and then tries to help...This takes month's and month's, sometimes years....But, back to leadership...the President is the one to get things going...If he is weak, and never admits mistakes....we are in bad trouble...In todays world...our country is possibly in the "Most" danger ever in it's history...Everything we have done, and everthing we can do is hampered with a threat of attack from those wanting to kill us...right here in our country...This is one reason we need a strong and large military force...not just to go to war in another country...Look...no one wants to have their kid's go to battle...Our country of Freedom was not just handed to us..one's before us had to fight for it...Now, we must continue to fight, or be willing to fight for keeping and maintaining our way of life...Again I say...Bring the Draft back....If one is healthy & physically able...serve two (2) years...One can learn and be better for it...Not just shooting a rifle...but learn things like healthcare, equipment use, aircraft, NBC, (chemical and bio hazzards), and much more....We may need these skills to help others if our country is attacked again with a more severe attack then before...Some people are leaders, some follow...that is good...but to stand-by and do nothing...That can surely be a slow death for our country....Thank's Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret), e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
Ah, the Draft. A way to get a broad spectrum and cross section of our personnel in the military. When SAC (strategic air command, remember them?) was around and active, I dont think terrorist would have thought about striking the United states. If we have an active military, our strength would be built up so our ground forces would be strong. If we are strong, third world countries would see us as a power, not as a whipping boy. If we were a power, we would not have to apologize for mistakes as we would not have to make decisions that would lead to mistakes. Bring back the draft, not just for the army, but maybe for all branches, so we can have a trained team, to work together to show the world we are Americans, dont mess with us. I am proud of our uniform, our Flag, our country. I dont like the politics in Washington or Iraq but I am tired of getting our men and women killed and getting our butts kicked. No quarter asked, none given but we cant do it with a volunteer army, now a days, no one want to volunteer. replys welcome at email@example.com, re:Draft
YOU ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY. YOU WANT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE. THAT IS NOT GOING HAPPEN. YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE AND GET OFF THIS MESSAGE BOARD. DO YOU LIVE HERE? Do you think we are so stupid we don't know that YOU wrote all those replies to "Stop whining?" Your ignorance is showing. Freedom was never free. Someone had to pay the price for our freedom. And I, for one, appreciate that. I would go in a heartbeat if I could. There are some things worth fighting for and my country is one of those thing, but you wouldn't know that because you're a TAKER. It's too bad that you don't know enough to know that someone always has to pay for freedom... When you can't think of anything decent to say, you resort to bowel movements because that is your mentality. I hope you remember this conversation when you grow up.
I am a grandmother and I do not want my grandson used as cannon fodder in Irag or anywhere else. The only way to get out of this mess is to vote George Bush out of office and hope we can elect intelligent people to clean up the mess we are in.
Isn't it interesting that no where in any of the articles is it mentioned that it was ACTUALLY two Democrats that proposed the bill, backed by 13 other Democrats. If you know anything about communication and politics you know that it is merely a scare tactic on the part of the Democrats to try and lure readers into thinking this is all due to Rumsfeld and the current administration. It should also be noted that the bill died already and failed miserably. So for all Americans, moms, dads, aunts, uncles, grandparents, teachers, ect. Sleep better tonight knowing that this bill was done only as another game in the arena of politics, our young adults are going no where. Tiffiney Upchurch
Do you think we are so stupid we don't know that YOU wrote all those replies to "Stop whining?" Your ignorance is showing. Freedom was never free. Someone had to pay the price for our freedom. And I, for one, appreciate that. I would go in a heartbeat if I could. There are some things worth fighting for and my country is one of those thing, but you wouldn't know that because you're a TAKER. It's too bad that you don't know enough to know that someone always has to pay for freedom... When you can't think of anything decent to say, you resort to bowel movements because that is your mentality. I hope you remember this conversation when you grow up.
Most definately. It will give the young people of this country some disiplin.We need to go back to the old BROWN BOOT type of military.
We must protect our Country at any cost and if that means re-instating the Draft, it must be done.I am truly greatful for the Freedom to respond to this issue. I might not be able to if no one was willing to Fight For My & Your Freedom.If there are not enough people in the Armed Services to Protect us, do we just say Oh OK, I'll give up my Country & my Freedom or do we re-instate the Draft ? My decision is, I would gladly give my life for my Country and for the Freedom of everyone in the USA.I would also be first in Line if the Draft is re-instated. dzydee3624
"Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining." GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND POST YOUR OPINIONS. YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY. I GUESS YOU LIKE TO PUT PEOPLE DOWN. YOU SOUND LIKE A REAL WINNER. GET A JOB!!!!!!!!!
TO THE PERSON THAT WROTE THE FOLLOWING: "Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining." HEY BUDDY! TAKE AN ENEMA AND A CHILL PILL. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU NEED TO RELAX.
Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining. THE PERSON THAT WROTE THIS IS A REAL WINNER. TAKE AN ENEMA. AND CHILL
WHO WAS THE GENIUS THAT POSTED THIS COMMENT? Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining. LISTEN BUDDY, YOU REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO VOICE THEIR OPINONS. SO, MAYBE "YOU" SHOULD KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT AND STOP WHINING. MAYBE STILL, WHAT DONT YOU GO SOMEWHERE ELSE AND POST YOUR OPINIONS.
Whoever was the individual that posted the following comment: "Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining." DONT YOU EVER TELL ANYONE TO KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. DO YOU EVER TELL ANYONE NOT TO VOICE THEIR OPINIONS. WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? YOU SOUND LIKE A SELF RIGHTEOUS BIGOT. I THOUGHT THIS WAS STILL A FREE COUNTRY. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AND I WILL STAND BY IT; "I HOPE YOU ARE READY TO GO FIGHT. I HOPE YOU ARE READY TO SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR FAMILY AND HOPE THAT YOU COME BACK". WHY DONT YOU KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
she is not being selfish or uninformed she just wants her kids to be safe its awful but apparently your so uninformed you don't understand that! or what its like to be a mother and loose your children in battle!
Thank God that all of us aren't as selfish and uninformed as the mother of the 11 and 1 1/2 yr old. If you don't want to help keep America free, then you should go live in another country. Selfish people like you will keep America going downhill. At least please keep your mouth shut and stop whining.
I do not think that there should be a Draft again. There are certainly enough folks sighning up every day. No Draft Please!!!!!!!!!!!
A P.S. from Chuck Kenney, Vietnam vet and retired from the Army: The "Draft" concerns is prompted by Irag..While I support our men and women serving in war...I do not think that our President made wise decisions in going to war...It was to fast...withour very good info and planning...The "Big Shots" at the Pentagon have made grave errors...All this has caused un-necessary death of our military personnel...Yes, the young children of our nation...the 18 to 22 year olds...and even some old-timers....Let's face it....there was not enough military force on the ground "After" the initial taking of Baghdad and ther citie's in Iraq...The equipment ws not there, or was not the right kind...Even toda..patrols go out in Hum-V's...that is no protection for a soldier in a combat area....It has put a hardsip on our active duty and reserve and Guard forces..made t harder to do their job and stay alive...It is not only President Bush's fault...but also Sec of Defense Rumsfeld...wanting a smaller force all along...do more with less...Well, it ain't working....We need strong and sensible leaders right now....Yes, I understand how Mom's feel about their kid's going to war...and or being drafted...My mom was worried and afraid when I was drafted and went to Vietnam...I say to the Mom's out there...one of these day's your life, your children's lives may be at risk..not from a war outside the USA..but right here "Inside" the USA.... If this happens..do you think the Police can help? The Guard? It will take the full force of ur military....if it get's weak..and low in numbers...what will you do then? Our congress and senate leaders can't help us then...The governor of the state can't help us then...Farmer Brown with a shotgun can't help us then...It is important that all..yes.."All" citizens of the United States come forward if called...to protect your way of life and that of your fellow American...Look where yo are...what you are...Many people in other countrie's don't have electric lights, or a tv set...or a McDonalds around the courner...They make abuck a day...if that, and..their family is starving or dying for lack of any food...We are Americans, nothing can change that...I hope we can be Alive and well Americans inside our country...Not dead one's....If we only care for ourselve's and no-one else...then, we slowly can die...I am proud of our American people, the people in each state..."Most" all see and understand what Freedom means...I say again.."Yes" to a Draft...we need it back..."Peace thru Strength"...Well, that's my long P.S. here...Thank's, Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret). e-mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
I was drafted during the Vietnam war...I went, served...At the time, was young and ready...Other's that were drafted served, did their best. Not all draftee's are anti-war..but it's o.k. to be anti-war...just be "Pro-American"....war is nt good.."Peace" is much better...However, we must have a strong military...for one of these days when needed we must have the manpower...Look, weapons of mass destruction are not used by the USA...only once, that was in Japan...The freedoms we have had, and now have, ma one day "Really" be in trouble...who else can be a leader and a freedom fighter? The United States needs strong leaders...common sense leaders...that can use our force when realy needed...Yes...big errors have been made in the past and maybe even right now....Support our troops above all...give them the full support..the equipment, and the manpower to protect our country...Yes, it cost more billions of dollars...but what good is money when we are dead? I estimate that we need atleast 100,000 more troops on active duty right now..A draft may not be popular, but I feel it is what our young people need...to once again really be a part of America...not our taking drugs and having a big party at college...They need direction and true purpose...the military will help them. I had many years service...and retired from the Army...It has made me more in touch with others, and given me more appreciation for our great country...Thank's, Chuck Kenney, US Army (Ret), now in North Carolina USA. e-mail: email@example.com
For all those so called "God Fearing" people who have posted their positive views on the 'DRAFT', all I can say is, "YOU GO FIGHT". YOU ARE SO WILLING TO SEND ALL OUR YOUNG PEOPLE OVER TO A COUNTRY THAT DOESNT WANT US THERE. RISK OUR CHILDREN GETTING KILLED. FOR WHAT? I CAN TELL YOU THIS, THAT MY CHILDREN AGES 11 AND 1 1/2 YEARS OF AGE BOTH BOYS, WILL NOT GO TO WAR TO APPEASE YOU. I WILL NOT LET THIS COUNTRY RISK THE LIVES OF MY CHILDREN FOR ANYTHING. AND IF YOU DONT LIKE, WELL, THEN YOU CAN GO AND FIGHT. YOU ARE SO GOD FEARING, THEN YOU GO AND ENLIST AND DEFEND THIS COUNTRY. LEAVE MY CHILDREN ALONE. I ALSO HAVE A STEP SON IN THE SERVICE. AND SINCE HE HAS BEEN IN THE SERVICE, SINCE HE WAS 17 HE IS NOW 22, WE HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE THREAT SEVERAL TIMES IN THE PAST TWO YEARS OF HIM GOING OVER SEAS. AND IT JUST ABOUT GAVE MY HUSBAND A BREAKDOWN. FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN ALREADY ENLISTED, THATS FINE. THEY ARE ALREADY THERE. BUT TO TAKE YOUNG CHILDREN, BASICALLY THEY ARE CHILDREN AWAY TO A PLACE WITH SO MUCH UNCIVILIZATION, WITH THE THOUGHT OF THEM NOT COMING BACK OR COMING BACK IN A BODY BAG, WELL, THAT JUST WONT HAPPEN. NO ONE IN THE WHITE HOUSE OR ANYWHERE ELSE IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT TO DO WITH MY CHILDREN. I THOUGHT WE HAD RIGHTS. I GUESS RIGHTS ONLY APPLY TO PEOPLE WHO COME HERE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES WHO NEED MEDICAL ATTENTION AND HOUSING AND JOBS. THAT IS OK. LET PRESIDENT BUSH SEND HIS KIDS INTO BATTLE. I WONDER. WOULD HE LET THEM GO? THIS WHOLE THING SUCKS!!!!!!!!
first off i dont agree with the war,second i think starting the draft to go and fight with a country that doesnt want us there to start with and to fight a war that bushwanted no matter what so bad he lied about wmd.which they have never found its his war let him go fight it,i thought our men was only going to be there until suddamn was captured,well they got him bring ours boys home.no i disagree about the draft.its time bush quit playing games and with our boys.how would he like it if his daughters got drafted and sent to fight. margie ellsworth
I have a problem with the whole war effort.This war is only for the oil that we don't have.Their is nothing good about . the only thing it is doing is making Bush and the other oil misers rich at the cost of American lifes. How can we stop something that has been going on for years.This matter should have been taken care of twelve years ago when Senior Bush was in office.It just hurts my feelings as an American to be the laughing stock of the world.This thing has stopped the economy.People are not spending alot of money.American Soldiers dying everyday when is going to stop?We shoud pull our troops out and let those people life like they have been living for years.Isn't amazing how all this crap always happens around election time. Dave Aberdeen
i just wanted to say that this is supposed to be a free country we should decide whether we want to go to war or not. they shouldn't make us. this is not fair. we have plenty of people willing to fight and we support them how ever they ask but its not right to force somebody to go to war. you may say that its free because we fight for it or its your duty to fight for your free country, well then that doesn't make it so much of a free country any more now does it?
Don't be bashing Bush, he's a good man. All you democrats can think of is being as mean,spiteful and hateful as you can. You take our money and give to those who won't work to take care of themselves. You take from those who are decent to give to those who not only won't work but blow everything on drugs, alcohol and cigarettes while their children are left to fend for themselves. These same children who are taught that way of life continue in that same cycle with their kids and are never taught to have any morals or teach their children morals. Why do you think we have so many prisons? They all feel they are entitled to not work but be cared for by those who do. The draft would give them a chance to feel what it's like to take care of themselves and get an education. Pretty soon we won't have anything and they will live like kings.
I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK THE DRAFT SHOULD BE RE-INSTATED. LET IT STAY AS VOLUNTARY ENLISTMENT. I FEEL THAT ENOUGH OF OUR CHILDREN HAVE DIED DEFENDING A COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T WANT US THERE...OUR COUNTRY HAS SPENT BILLIONS OF DOLLARS FORCING OUR BELIEFS ON OTHER COUNTRIES WHILE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY CHILDREN ARE STARVING, PEOPLE ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS AND THEIR HOMES... If you vote the repubicans into office in November, you will not need to worry about the draft because you will not have a free country. Bush is a traiter and should be treated as such!!! He wouldn't know the TRUTH if it hit him in the FACE...
It's a necessary evil I think, but I think the draft SHOULD be started up again. In fact, it should have NEVER been shut down. Our milatary needs the variety of people from all walks of life. In Israel even females HAVE to serve, I think at least one year if not two! Freedom doesn't come cheap! I served during the Vietnam war.(was sent to Korea as an 18 year old! You will have to earn your freedom in this day & age. Like one other person on this site said, fight terrorism over there or the nwxt thing you know the car bombs will be exploding over here on a DAILY basis!!
WILL GEORGE W. BUSH SEND HIS DAUGHTERS OR JEB BUSH? HELL NO THEY WON'T GO
I don't think it would be a good idea to reinstate the draft. We are blessed to have the wonderful military that we have. We should all get behind those fighting on our behalf, trying to make the world a better place. God bless the troops!!! There are way to many liberal media pigs out there who can't tell the truth about anything. The Democrats have the media in there pockets, to help brainwash everyone who will listen to that garbage. The media needs to come to realize they were actually hurting the war effort more than they were helping it. I think it is very sad there are so many people out there that will believe anything the liberal media says.
A two year military enlistment should be manditory at age 18. This would teach our youth the value and morals on which this country was founded. I am disappointed with what I see in today's youth and feel some good old fashioned discipline would do them some good. I served on a voluteer basis when I was young, and thank God for giving me the experience. I was a troubled youth and the military helped me get my head straight and give my life some direction.
I am a backer and a believer in President Bush's policies in fighting against the terrorist's insane hatred of anything that is not Muslim and systemic murders off all people .This is truly a battle against true Evil. Having said that I would not like to see a draft of our young men against their wills . Spend the time instead recruiting men with the free will to join and also bring the troops already scattered around the world to relieve those in Iraq.
Check out who submitted the bills that you are referring to. They are all democrats. Also I have read about this in the news papers and as far as I can tell this whole thing is about nothing more than race. At least that is what I gather from some of the quotes I have read from Rangel. He believes more blacks and southern poor folks are fighting and in the service than northern white folk. I think the whole thing stinks of sociallism. I was a poor white yankee and I thank God for the opportunity that serving in the Air Force afforded me. The democrats see military service more as a sentence against the poor rather than an opportunity. The beauty of our military is the fact that it is all voluntary. It is rediculous to want to punish so many people just because they may have more than you do. That is called sociallism, which is another name for communism.
I do not think we would have this option this day and age if all the young men in world wars I and II had said no to the draft.......................we would not have the freedoms we have enjoyed for the last 100 years. Yes, war is terrible, and as a daughter, wife, mother and grandmother, it maks my heart heavy to think of young men fighting in a forign county, yet often times, issues come up that threaten our way of life....better there than here is one thought. I am sure no one wants to lose the precious life of one single American, but what if everyone refuses to defend the USA, what then?
I truly believe that as soon as there is another terrorist attack, our government will go ahead with the draft full speed. Too bad, we waited so long to do something about the terrorists. Now our young people will pay the ultimate sacrifice for our stupidity.
I feel the reinstatement of the draft would be fair to all the young men and women of the country. The new bill would give the military a better cross section of the our men and women, it may help us as a country to appreciate our brothers and sisters by blending all economic and racial facets. Vietnam Vet Milt
Reinstate the draft.
First of all these two bills "pending" S89 & HR163 will probably never see the light of day - we have enough patriotic young people who will enlist on a volunteer basis - a volunteer armed force is the best - proven by our brave troops now! I myself resent the fact that the writer of this letter is trying to alarm people - and to what end - to cause confusion and dissent - we already have enough of that - (Josie K)
I can't believe so many people are so selfish that they are not willing to make sacrifices to defend our freedom. What it boils down to is that American people today are so ME,ME,ME,selfish,selfcentered and not willing to pay the price to have a free America. Not only are they unwilling to sacrifice in any way but they blast anyone who tries to do the right thing. I see lots of disgusting,unintelligent,hateful comments towards anyone who tries to help keep America free but I don't hear the other side being hateful and spiteful. Sure,they want all the freedoms and the good life but aren't willing to support anyone who tries to keep us free, let alone sacrifice themselves...they always want others to do the things it takes to keep us free so they can enjoy it. Don't you want to feel like a worthwhile,good human being? When will you start acting like you should?
I dislike the thought of war and death as much as anyone. But, I also like the thought that you can send anti-war comments and materials to me without fear of being hunted down and killed like people in pre-war Iraq. My ability to believe as I wish and do as I wish is a gift from thousands of young men and women who have died to insure that we can be a people of free will. Their sacrafice is the price of our freedom. Only history will tell if this war will help to end terriorism. But, if we do not fight against the people who behead private citizens and fly airplanes into tall buildings, we will surely live to deeply regret our inaction. Most of the people who are ranting and raving about the "Bush War" in Iraq are the same ones that were waving the flag and demanding the deportation of all middle eastern people in October, 2001. Most of the people in this country wanted something done. President Bush did what he thought was right at the time. Now, everyone is an expert on international affairs, including the Senators and Congressmen who authorized(Voted For) the war on terriorism. Of course you can look back on history and say I would have done this or done that. Congress is full of Monday Morning Quarterbacks who could have won the game after seeing the game film. People who have to make their decisions NOW do not get the benefit of changing their opinion and position on matters after the war is fought. Where was Kerry & Edwards in 2001? They were authorizing war on Iraq. Now, they talk about how wrong it is. Easy to say now. Of course, if they came out as opposed to the war on terriorism in 2001 or 2002, we would not be talking about them today. Neither would have been able to keep their job. Hindsight!!! It is so easy to say what lottery numbers you would have used the day after the lottery drawing. You are everyones hero. Sorry to ramble but without war, we would all be speaking German, Russian & Japanese. Everyone today benefits from the sacrafice that those in the military have made over the course of history.
Your site is awesome. Thank you so much. I do love it.
A volunteer army is a mercenary army and a mercenary army spells the end of democracy in an era of constant warfare.
Sorry! to say woulden't of made any difference,whether we had a draft or not Bush was looking for an excuse to go after Sadam!, even if he had to fabricate one. at the present time there was no need for war on this country, I get tired of the U,S, sending our young men into country's, to fight for other countries,that want take their own part. drag our boy's through the street's,hang them,burn them in their own vehicle's. then they are allowed to come here,and live the good life.while our boy's are no more.nothing but memories left of them,talk about having war here! at least every one would have a fair chance, then we'd be fighting for something worth while, not some one else's war,for a change.this administration has done more harm to this country.and now wants to do more by the draft, if the democrat's got elected,the blame would be on their shoulder's then, if Bush got elected would he make sure his girl's did their part, like other young women of this country.I think not. and you can bet their families woulden't be in harm's way.
I think the draft should be reinstated, if we need it to remain free and keep America free. If we are going to "remain policemen of the world" and our troops are stretched too thin, to reinstate the draft for this reason, I am against it. Jim
Freedom has never been free. Americans fighting to defeat those who want to kill Americans has made our nation free for over 200 years. If it takes a draft to support a strong defense and when necessary a stronger offense, I support it.
It's abput time the U.S. re-instuted the draft!!!!!
I've read some of the comments regarding the reinstatement of the draft and I just have to shake my head at some of them. I think many people have a short memory, or maybe it's selective memory. When we saw those planes go into the towers, didn't we all stand behind this president and tell him to "go get them?" We had an unprecidented percentage of people, including the congress and the senate, who supported this president 100%. But, as time went by, the media got tired of supporting a (heaven forbid!) Republican, and began to slowly undermine everything he did. Now I read comments that make our president into the next Hitler, killing and maiming without regard to human life. Then, there's the other comments that want us to stick our heads in the sand and let the Iraqis duke it out amongst themselves. Hey, get a clue! It's us they want to duke it out with! If we all come back home, they're just going to activate all their "sleeper" agents that they've had in this country for years, working in our factories and offices...living in your neighborhood and mine. Then, you will see why we have to be there, fighting in their neighborhood. As long as we're there, they're too busy to come here. And sticking your head in the sand gives our enemies a real nifty target to hit! This is the reason we go over there to fight. It's to keep them from gaining the power to come over here and do major damage. And if you thought the towers were major damage, you really don't have a clue as to how devious and dangerous they are. They have a completely different mindset than we do. They WILL die for their faith...unlike some Christians (I'm talking about the Sunday morning Christian who discharges their duty to the Lord by appearing for one hour a week to sit in a pew, then go home). I've heard all the arguments about us being the "watchdog" of the world, and that we really shouldn't be sticking our noses into the other countries business. Well, if we didn't go "over there", they would have eventually come "over here". By then, it would have been too late. If you would remember your history, Germany thought that if they would just ignore the problem of Hitler, he would go away. WRONG! Problems don't go away when you ignore them. Any cancer patient will tell you that. You got to dig our the cancer or it will eat you alive, taking no prisoners. So, the bottom line...yes, we should have the draft. If you call yourself an American and reap all the benefits of American life, then you should be ready to serve in any capacity that you are able. Hey, that sounds like the Christian life! My dad served in WWII. Pearl Harbor happened two days before his 18th birthday. As soon as he was able, he enlisted, eager to serve his country in any capacity. When my brother got his draft notice, he promptly went down to the draft board and took his physical. Unfortunately, he was classified a 4F and could not serve. At present, my 20 year old daughter is talking to a recruiter about getting into the military. I am very proud of her for doing this and am encouraging her all the way. Yes, she wants to get the educational benefits. But if she has to go "over there", I will pray for her safe return and place her in the Lord's hands. No one wants their child to die early, no matter what the circumstance. But she knows the score. And she's willing to go anyway. If you are only going into the military to get the "bennies" (benefits), then you must be prepared to give your all. There should never be any illusions about what you're getting yourself in to. You are being trained for potential war. Boot camp gets you ready for war. It was never meant to just slim you down so that you look cool in your uniform. On a serious note, my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones in this war. This has been a horrible, long and nerve wracking ordeal, and yes, I wish it would end soon. It's hard fighting where you don't know who the enemy is. My husband fought in Viet Nam and he said that was one of the hard things about fighting over there. He agreed with the person who commented that "they should just turn that country into an ashtray". It would save us a lot of grief over lost loved ones. Unfortunately, it would also eliminate thousands of innocent people, whose only crime was being in the way. Sometimes it seems like there's no right answer. Again, the people that we're fighting are very strong in their faith, and will die for it. They really believe we are Satanic and will poison the world with our sinful lifestyles (and they're right, in a lot of ways). As Christians, we have to make a difference, right where we live. And we haven't been doing that. Shame on us. Instead of shaking our fingers at our elected officials, we need to get back to the basics of the Bible, get out of our comfortable pews and "go make disciples". Enough of this name calling. If you are a Christian...BE ONE!!! S.L.S.---Wisconsin <*)))><
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DRAFT RE-INSTATED AS I HAVE FELT FROM DAY ONE OF THE PRESENT CONFLICT THAT IT IS SO UNFAIR TO SEND THE NATIONAL GUARD ON SUCH MISSIONS. I FEEL IT IS THE GUARD'S DUTY TO PROTECT THE HOMELAND FROM INVADERS. ALSO, BY SENDING THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE NATIONAL GUARD, WE ARE MAKING THOUSANDS OF WOMEN WIDOWS AND LEAVING SEVERAL TIMES THAT MANY CHILDREN IN THIS NATION WITHOUT A FATHER. THE DRAFT WOULD TAKE MOSTLY YOUNGER MEN AND WOMAN WITHOUT DEPENDENT CHILDREN. FURTHER, I FEEL THAT A REGULAR ARMY WOULD BE BETTER TRAINED THAN THE NATIONAL GUARD TO WAGE A FULL-BLOWN WAR ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
Yes we need the draft. It's about time the young people in America found out how they live in the freedom we have here. Freedom is not free. Without a defense we would not have a great nation. I say to all soldiers in our American forces resist in any way possible,do not serve in or under the United Nations. If the U.N. ever gains control of our American forces and our military equiptment where will our freedom be then? Think about all the military bases here in America that would be in their control.Yes we need the draft and good inteligent young soldiers who would tell The United Nations that no PARASITE is going to take our country. Jim Harwood
its too bad the public is not aware of this i have sent it on to my email friends
no to the draft we dont need any more of our young people gettin killed
.................................no draft............................ dont kill our children
IF IT IS NECESSARY, I DO BELIEVE THE DRAFT IS OK. PROVIDEING THAT EVERYONE IS ELGIBLE FOR THE DRAFT WITH N0 EXCEPTIONS. I ALSO THINK THAT THE GOVERMENT SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN THE PEOPLE , AND NOT HIDE WHATS GOING ON IN GOVERMENT, I THINK THAT THEY SHOULD TRUST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, AS WE THE AMERICANS PUT THEM IN OFFICE AND TRY TO TRUST THEIR JUDGEMENT!
I BELIEVE IT IS PROPER TO DRAFT.I MYSELF AM A RETIRED ARMY NURSE.MY SON SERVED IN THE NAVY AND ALL OUR FORE FATHER'S DID THE SAME. IT MAKES YOU RESPECT OUR FLAG AND WHAT IT REALLY STANDS FOR. IF YOU LIKE THE FREEDOM WE HAVE THEN BE MEN AND WOMEN AND CONTINUE TO PROTECT THIS GREAT NATION WE HAVE. REMEMBER THIS GENERATION WILL PROVIDE THE FREEDOM FOR THE ONES YOU LEAVE BEHIND.. ONLY REAL MEN AND REAL WOMEN WOULD DARE TAKE THE LIBERTY AND HONOR TO SERVE THIS COUNTRY. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL WHO PROTECT US FROM THE HATE AND EVILS OF THIS WORLD. PRAY FOR OUR TROOP'S IN THAT GHASTLY COUNTRY OR WHERE EVER THEY MAY BE. NRSEJ25 LT.U.S.A.
move to canada you left wing punk
I don't believe it is right to draft people who dont want to serve its not a wise decision.